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  #81  
Old October 21st 07, 04:01 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bob Noel
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In article ,
"Dan Luke" wrote:

Ask anyone: most people would rather be put to death than spend the rest of
their lives in prison. I certainly would. I know someone who's done some
hard time; "living hell" doesn't do justice to what he experienced.


At least the guy in prison has a chance of being freed. The dead guy is dead
forever.

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  #82  
Old October 21st 07, 04:59 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"NW_Pilot" wrote:
All this was beacuse
from my Lebanon trip. They keep telling me they don't have to let me
back in to the U.S. the country I was born!


Heh. I suspect that eventually Canada (or whatever country you were
returning from) might put you on a plane headed back to the U.S. and deny
you reentry to their country for overstaying your visit!

I don't know much about it or whether your previous ferry trips have
already tainted any background checks they perform on you, but maybe
applying to one of the "Trusted Traveler" programs would reduce future
contact with low-I.Q. goons:

http://www.cbp.gov/xp/cgov/travel/trusted_traveler/
  #83  
Old October 21st 07, 10:36 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bertie the Bunyip[_19_]
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Matt Whiting wrote in
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Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Matt Whiting wrote in news:KqwSi.413$2n4.20122
@news1.epix.net:

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
C J Campbell wrote in
news:200710181833568930-christophercampbell@hotmailcom:

The only people who have held that water-boarding is torture is
anti-war extremists.

People who are anti war are extremeists?
That isn't even close to what he wrote.



I cut and paste it...


So it's exactly what he wrote.


Bertie



He didn't say that people who are anti-war are extremists. He said
that people that hold a certain view are anti-war extremists. Huge
difference.


Has he no tongue?


Bertie
  #84  
Old October 21st 07, 01:52 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Dan Luke[_2_]
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"Bob Noel" wrote:

Ask anyone: most people would rather be put to death than spend the rest
of
their lives in prison. I certainly would. I know someone who's done some
hard time; "living hell" doesn't do justice to what he experienced.


At least the guy in prison has a chance of being freed. The dead guy is
dead
forever.


Another argument against CP. Juries make mistakes.


--
Dan
T-182T at BFM


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Old October 21st 07, 04:06 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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("Dan Luke" wrote)
Another argument against CP. Juries make mistakes.



More than 42K people die on our highways every year - society views this as
an acceptable loss.

I would like to see a couple of things:

1. Jury votes of 9-3 to convict.

2. An understanding that society has needs, too.


Montblack


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Old October 21st 07, 05:14 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bob Noel
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In article ,
"Dan Luke" wrote:

Ask anyone: most people would rather be put to death than spend the rest
of
their lives in prison. I certainly would. I know someone who's done some
hard time; "living hell" doesn't do justice to what he experienced.


At least the guy in prison has a chance of being freed. The dead guy is
dead
forever.


Another argument against CP. Juries make mistakes.


It is the probably the primary reason why I oppose CP.

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Old October 21st 07, 08:56 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jim Logajan
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"Montblack" wrote:
[ Comparing capital punishment to driving deaths. ]
More than 42K people die on our highways every year - society views
this as an acceptable loss.


Sigh. You're comparing an activity where an individual makes their _own_
decision of risk-vs-reward affecting _themselves_ (deciding whether to
drive or ride in a motor vehicle) versus an activity (capital punishment)
wherein _others_ decide an accused's fate.

Most people presume the context affects the moral and legal prerequisites,
so the activities aren't comparable. Just because people die from capital
punishment and from driving hardly makes them morally comparable.

I would like to see a couple of things:

1. Jury votes of 9-3 to convict.


Some jurisdictions already allow several dissents in the case of civil
trials.

2. An understanding that society has needs, too.


So you're a socialist?
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Old October 21st 07, 10:46 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Neil Gould
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Recently, Montblack posted:

("Dan Luke" wrote)
Another argument against CP. Juries make mistakes.



More than 42K people die on our highways every year - society views
this as an acceptable loss.

There is no correlation between being killed during a self-elected
activity and being put to death by erroneous and/or malicious prosecution.

I would like to see a couple of things:

1. Jury votes of 9-3 to convict.

2. An understanding that society has needs, too.

Have you ever served on a jury? I have, and frankly think that this is a
ludicrous suggestion.

Neil


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Old October 21st 07, 11:55 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Neil Gould" wrote in message
...
Recently, Montblack posted:

("Dan Luke" wrote)
Another argument against CP. Juries make mistakes.



More than 42K people die on our highways every year - society views
this as an acceptable loss.

There is no correlation between being killed during a self-elected
activity and being put to death by erroneous and/or malicious prosecution.

I would like to see a couple of things:

1. Jury votes of 9-3 to convict.

2. An understanding that society has needs, too.

Have you ever served on a jury? I have, and frankly think that this is a
ludicrous suggestion.


If he had he would have seen the number of morons who end up on juries.
People make mistakes.


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Old October 22nd 07, 01:46 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On 2007-10-20 17:15:05 -0600, "Dan Luke" said:


"C J Campbell" wrote:

The only people who have held that water-boarding is torture is
anti-war extremists.

I never knew that John McCain was an anti-war extremist. You learn the
darndest things on Usenet!


I forgot about that bigoted imbecile.


Hmm. I have several political differences with McCain; I might even go as
far as "fool" WRT the war in Iraq.

But "bigoted imbecile?"

That's pretty strong.


McCain made some pretty ignorant remarks in an interview on belief.net.
Asked if he thought that Romney or a Muslim could be President, he
managed to offend all the non-Christians by stating that America was a
'Christian' country, ignoring the Constitutional provision against a
state religion. He also managed to offend more than 12 million Mormons,
who are Christians despite the ranting of a few over-the-top
evangelists who have appointed themselves the privilege of deciding who
is a Christian and who is not.

Indeed, if you want to find an 'American' religion, you would have a
tough time finding one that is more 'American' than the Mormons.
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