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Gatorade (only slightly OT)
With summer, season of heat, dehydration and cramps, nearly here I have a
question: Does anybody know where I can buy powdered Gatorade in the UK - preferably lemon/lime flavour in 521g (18.4 oz) jars. Failing that, does anybody have a recipe for an acceptable substitute? -- martin@ | Martin Gregorie gregorie. | Essex, UK org | |
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Gatorade (only slightly OT)
On Jun 3, 4:08*pm, Martin Gregorie
wrote: With summer, season of heat, dehydration and cramps, nearly here I have a question: Does anybody know where I can buy powdered Gatorade in the UK - preferably lemon/lime flavour in 521g (18.4 oz) jars. Failing that, does anybody have a recipe for an acceptable substitute? -- martin@ * | Martin Gregorie gregorie. | Essex, UK org * * * | I did the powdered gatorade thing last weekend in my camelbak and didnt really like it. maybe we got the mixture wrong or something but gatorade and other sports drinks tend to leave me with a dry mouth, i think it must be all the extra sugar they add. i've also tried lemon juice and a bit of sugar added to my water before as i heard that was a good electrolyte replacer. i think i will just stick with plain ole water for now. |
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Gatorade (only slightly OT)
Tony wrote:
On Jun 3, 4:08 pm, Martin Gregorie wrote: With summer, season of heat, dehydration and cramps, nearly here I have a question: Does anybody know where I can buy powdered Gatorade in the UK - preferably lemon/lime flavour in 521g (18.4 oz) jars. Failing that, does anybody have a recipe for an acceptable substitute? -- martin@ | Martin Gregorie gregorie. | Essex, UK org | You could try a standard oral rehydration solution. The recipe I found is from http://rehydrate.org/solutions/homemade.htm Ingredients: * one level teaspoon of salt * eight level teaspoons of sugar * one litre of clean drinking or boiled water and then cooled Lemon juice is suggested as a flavouring. This page is particularly recommended because it has a picture to explain how you mix these together. I must admit that the idea of putting them all in a jug and stirring had not previously occurred to me. More sophisticated recipes from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oral_rehydration_therapy, though so far as I can see these just add a few more minerals. It's gratifying to know that this is the standard treatment for cholera, such a scourge (literally) at airfields. My feeling is that drinking this mixture throughout the flight might be too much, but I'll mix up a batch and put some in a separate bottle, keeping my camelbak for plain water, to stave off cramps. |
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Gatorade (only slightly OT)
On Thu, 03 Jun 2010 23:29:59 +0100, Chris Reed wrote:
Tony wrote: On Jun 3, 4:08 pm, Martin Gregorie wrote: With summer, season of heat, dehydration and cramps, nearly here I have a question: Does anybody know where I can buy powdered Gatorade in the UK - preferably lemon/lime flavour in 521g (18.4 oz) jars. Failing that, does anybody have a recipe for an acceptable substitute? -- martin@ | Martin Gregorie gregorie. | Essex, UK org | You could try a standard oral rehydration solution. The recipe I found is from http://rehydrate.org/solutions/homemade.htm Ingredients: * one level teaspoon of salt * eight level teaspoons of sugar * one litre of clean drinking or boiled water and then cooled Lemon juice is suggested as a flavouring. This page is particularly recommended because it has a picture to explain how you mix these together. I must admit that the idea of putting them all in a jug and stirring had not previously occurred to me. More sophisticated recipes from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oral_rehydration_therapy, though so far as I can see these just add a few more minerals. It's gratifying to know that this is the standard treatment for cholera, such a scourge (literally) at airfields. My feeling is that drinking this mixture throughout the flight might be too much, but I'll mix up a batch and put some in a separate bottle, keeping my camelbak for plain water, to stave off cramps. Thanks for the URL's - I've recorded them for future experimentation. Tony and Chris: I agree about drinking the stuff in flight: for that I prefer to use plain water, but I find that Gatorade or equivalent before a late launch on a hot day or after the flight helps a lot. I'll use Lucozade if I must, but I don't like it - too sweet, rather too strong a taste and I don't much like the slightly fizzy taste of it. -- martin@ | Martin Gregorie gregorie. | Essex, UK org | |
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Gatorade (only slightly OT)
On Thu, 03 Jun 2010 14:20:09 -0700, Tony wrote:
On Jun 3, 4:08Â*pm, Martin Gregorie wrote: With summer, season of heat, dehydration and cramps, nearly here I have a question: Does anybody know where I can buy powdered Gatorade in the UK - preferably lemon/lime flavour in 521g (18.4 oz) jars. Failing that, does anybody have a recipe for an acceptable substitute? -- martin@ Â* | Martin Gregorie gregorie. | Essex, UK org Â* Â* Â* | I did the powdered gatorade thing last weekend in my camelbak and didnt really like it. maybe we got the mixture wrong or something but gatorade and other sports drinks tend to leave me with a dry mouth, i think it must be all the extra sugar they add. i've also tried lemon juice and a bit of sugar added to my water before as i heard that was a good electrolyte replacer. i think i will just stick with plain ole water for now. I haven't noticed the dry mouth, but I agree with you about orange flavoured Gatorade - that's why I mentioned lemon/lime flavour. -- martin@ | Martin Gregorie gregorie. | Essex, UK org | |
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Gatorade (only slightly OT)
Martin Gregorie wrote:
On Thu, 03 Jun 2010 23:29:59 +0100, Chris Reed wrote: Tony wrote: On Jun 3, 4:08 pm, Martin Gregorie wrote: With summer, season of heat, dehydration and cramps, nearly here I have a question: Does anybody know where I can buy powdered Gatorade in the UK - preferably lemon/lime flavour in 521g (18.4 oz) jars. Failing that, does anybody have a recipe for an acceptable substitute? -- martin@ | Martin Gregorie gregorie. | Essex, UK org | You could try a standard oral rehydration solution. The recipe I found is from http://rehydrate.org/solutions/homemade.htm Ingredients: * one level teaspoon of salt * eight level teaspoons of sugar * one litre of clean drinking or boiled water and then cooled Lemon juice is suggested as a flavouring. This page is particularly recommended because it has a picture to explain how you mix these together. I must admit that the idea of putting them all in a jug and stirring had not previously occurred to me. More sophisticated recipes from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oral_rehydration_therapy, though so far as I can see these just add a few more minerals. It's gratifying to know that this is the standard treatment for cholera, such a scourge (literally) at airfields. My feeling is that drinking this mixture throughout the flight might be too much, but I'll mix up a batch and put some in a separate bottle, keeping my camelbak for plain water, to stave off cramps. Thanks for the URL's - I've recorded them for future experimentation. Tony and Chris: I agree about drinking the stuff in flight: for that I prefer to use plain water, but I find that Gatorade or equivalent before a late launch on a hot day or after the flight helps a lot. I'll use Lucozade if I must, but I don't like it - too sweet, rather too strong a taste and I don't much like the slightly fizzy taste of it. Just found the WHO recipe: 1. Sodium Chloride 3.5 grams (90 meq/L Sodium) 2. Potassium Chloride 1.5 grams (20 meq/L Potassium) 3. Glucose 20 grams (2% Carbohydrate) 4. Sodium Bicarbonate 2.5 grams (30 meq/L bicarbonate) 1. Alternative: Trisodium Citrate 2.9 grams This looks like less salt and sugar, but I can't translate grams to teaspoons (anyone with accurate scales for this?) HOT NEWS: Further Googling reveals that a level teaspoon of either salt or sugar weighs about 8 grams. Thus the WHO recipe would be (approx): 1. 1/4 level teaspoon salt 2. 1/6 level teaspoon potassium chloride 3. 2.5 level teaspoons sugar 4. 1/3 level teaspoon sodium bicarbonate. Combine 1 and to give 2/3 level teaspoon salt and it should be rather more palatable than the first recipe. According to a UNICEF document I found this lower concentration reduces stool volume by 25%, which in an aircraft can only be a good thing!! |
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Gatorade (only slightly OT)
On Jun 3, 3:29*pm, Chris Reed wrote:
Tony wrote: On Jun 3, 4:08 pm, Martin Gregorie wrote: With summer, season of heat, dehydration and cramps, nearly here I have a question: Does anybody know where I can buy powdered Gatorade in the UK - preferably lemon/lime flavour in 521g (18.4 oz) jars. Failing that, does anybody have a recipe for an acceptable substitute? -- martin@ * | Martin Gregorie gregorie. | Essex, UK org * * * | You could try a standard oral rehydration solution. The recipe I found is fromhttp://rehydrate.org/solutions/homemade.htm Ingredients: * * ** one level teaspoon of salt * * ** eight level teaspoons of sugar * * ** one litre of clean drinking or boiled water and then cooled Lemon juice is suggested as a flavouring. This page is particularly recommended because it has a picture to explain how you mix these together. I must admit that the idea of putting them all in a jug and stirring had not previously occurred to me. More sophisticated recipes fromhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oral_rehydration_therapy, though so far as I can see these just add a few more minerals. It's gratifying to know that this is the standard treatment for cholera, such a scourge (literally) at airfields. My feeling is that drinking this mixture throughout the flight might be too much, but I'll mix up a batch and put some in a separate bottle, keeping my camelbak for plain water, to stave off cramps. I take a Camelbak full of water, and 1/2 liter of orange juice which has 400 mg of potassium. I'm no expert but that works for me, I guess I don't need the salt and I don't want the sugar. Brian |
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Gatorade (only slightly OT)
On Jun 3, 3:42*pm, Martin Gregorie
wrote: On Thu, 03 Jun 2010 14:20:09 -0700, Tony wrote: On Jun 3, 4:08*pm, Martin Gregorie wrote: With summer, season of heat, dehydration and cramps, nearly here I have a question: Does anybody know where I can buy powdered Gatorade in the UK - preferably lemon/lime flavour in 521g (18.4 oz) jars. Failing that, does anybody have a recipe for an acceptable substitute? -- martin@ * | Martin Gregorie gregorie. | Essex, UK org * * * | I did the powdered gatorade thing last weekend in my camelbak and didnt really like it. *maybe we got the mixture wrong or something but gatorade and other sports drinks tend to leave me with a dry mouth, i think it must be all the extra sugar they add. *i've also tried lemon juice and a bit of sugar added to my water before as i heard that was a good electrolyte replacer. *i think i will just stick with plain ole water for now. I haven't noticed the dry mouth, but I agree with you about orange flavoured Gatorade - that's why I mentioned lemon/lime flavour. -- martin@ * | Martin Gregorie gregorie. | Essex, UK org * * * | I don't know if it's available on your side of the pond, but many athletes are switching to an electrolyte replacement like "pedialyte" which has less sugar than the sports drinks. http://pedialyte.com/products..aspx?section=1. Craig |
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Gatorade (only slightly OT)
I'm not a nutritionist, but a couple of things that I've learned from
studying this topic myself: 1) Straight-up sugar (sucrose) isn't what you're looking for, its glucose that's more important. 2) Salt is a good thing; not necessarily a lot, but some. Sweat contains a fair amount of salts, and the medical folks I've talked to say that you should try to replace some of the lost salt to prevent Hyponatremia (here's an article on the subject and endurance sports, which seems appropriate for us: http://www.rice.edu/~jenky/sports/salt.html) 3) As mentioned, Pedialyte is nice because its formulated for kids with an eye towards avoiding excess sugar. IMHO, Gatorade's recent reformulations have been aimed more at competing with soft-drinks than as a way to improve the performance or bodily function of athletes. I find that straight Gatorade (or other sports drinks) is too strong, and can lead to nausea - especially if I start the flight already hydrated. Instead, I use a ~30/70 to 50/50 mix of Water and Gatorade or Pedialyte-type drink. I vary the concentration based on the temperature an sunlight at my flying location (more of the Gatorade/ Pedialyte solution if I expect to sweat more or be exposed to longer periods of intense sunshine). If I use something like Pedialyte that is lower in carbs, I make sure to bring slightly more food along in the cockpit. I prefer granola bars with fruit and nuts in them to provide complex sugars, carbs, and protein; and I comparison-shop to find the ones that are lower in sugar (hint: chewy/moist bars don't often make the grade). I also like a handful of Almonds from time to time (Blue Diamond Oven Roasted with Sea-Salt, or Emerald Nuts Cocoa Roasted - they are are surprisingly healthy and not high in sugar). Another reason I like nuts or the "drier" granola bars is because they encourage me to drink some fluids to wash my mouth out afterwards (drinking is all too easy to forget, especially when flying a competition or trying to make a goal). I try to eat something roughly every 2 - 3 hours, to keep my system on an even keel. Enjoy, --Noel |
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Gatorade (only slightly OT)
On Thu, 03 Jun 2010 16:05:42 -0700, brianDG303 wrote:
On Jun 3, 3:29Â*pm, Chris Reed wrote: Tony wrote: On Jun 3, 4:08 pm, Martin Gregorie wrote: With summer, season of heat, dehydration and cramps, nearly here I have a question: Does anybody know where I can buy powdered Gatorade in the UK - preferably lemon/lime flavour in 521g (18.4 oz) jars. Failing that, does anybody have a recipe for an acceptable substitute? -- martin@ Â* | Martin Gregorie gregorie. | Essex, UK org Â* Â* Â* | You could try a standard oral rehydration solution. The recipe I found is fromhttp://rehydrate.org/solutions/homemade.htm Ingredients: Â* Â* Â** one level teaspoon of salt Â* Â* Â** eight level teaspoons of sugar Â* Â* Â** one litre of clean drinking or boiled water and then cooled Lemon juice is suggested as a flavouring. This page is particularly recommended because it has a picture to explain how you mix these together. I must admit that the idea of putting them all in a jug and stirring had not previously occurred to me. More sophisticated recipes fromhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oral_rehydration_therapy, though so far as I can see these just add a few more minerals. It's gratifying to know that this is the standard treatment for cholera, such a scourge (literally) at airfields. My feeling is that drinking this mixture throughout the flight might be too much, but I'll mix up a batch and put some in a separate bottle, keeping my camelbak for plain water, to stave off cramps. I take a Camelbak full of water, and 1/2 liter of orange juice which has 400 mg of potassium. I'm no expert but that works for me, I guess I don't need the salt and I don't want the sugar. I do need the salt: past experience says that. Much as I like the idea of carrying water and some sort of juice (unsweetened grapefruit dies it for me, but I can sense a number of mouths puckering at the mere thought) as a Libelle driver I have space for a camelbak of water but that's it! -- martin@ | Martin Gregorie gregorie. | Essex, UK org | |
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