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Old January 3rd 05, 06:13 PM
Stewart Kissel
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Default A little off topic...but needed to vent on this

http://www.dailyrecord.com/news/arti...ews2-laser.htm

This kinda stuff drives me nuts....

When people are either to ignorant, or think they can
get away with something, that is not okay.

'Hey dad, lets go shine the laser at some more planes
tonight, sure is fun'

The can lock up the whole family as far as I am conerned




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Old January 3rd 05, 07:22 PM
snoop
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Stand by, the technology is out there to put a little zip back down the
beam to the originator. Like a phone call. For those thinking it would
be fun to shine your toy laser at airplanes, be careful out there.

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Old January 3rd 05, 07:25 PM
Eric Greenwell
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Stewart Kissel wrote:

http://www.dailyrecord.com/news/arti...ews2-laser.htm

This kinda stuff drives me nuts....

When people are either to ignorant, or think they can
get away with something, that is not okay.

'Hey dad, lets go shine the laser at some more planes
tonight, sure is fun'

The can lock up the whole family as far as I am conerned


Before they do that, they should find where they hid the laser powerful
enough to shine into a cockpit! A laser pointer with a couple AA
batteries in it won't do it. It sounds like an over-reaction to me.


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Old January 3rd 05, 09:10 PM
Marian Aldenhövel
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Hi,

Before they do that, they should find where they hid the laser powerful
enough to shine into a cockpit!


Construction workers use fairly powerful lasers for levelling and as
guidance. Easily powerful enough to do permanent damage when viewed right
on.

At least the housings are full of warnings. And that's in germany where we
do not routinely warn not to do clearly Very Stupid Stuff.

It follows that they can probably temporarily blind a pilot at night
over a long distance. At the very least they pose a large unnecessary
distraction at a high workload phase of flight.

http://www.avweb.com/newswire/11_01a.../188896-1.html

has more.

Ciao, MM
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Old January 3rd 05, 10:18 PM
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It is my understanding that all except one of these has been with a
green laser. People with telescopes use a green laser to aim. Could
it be kids with their new Christmas scope looking at airplanes?


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Old January 3rd 05, 11:11 PM
Shawn
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Stewart Kissel wrote:
http://www.dailyrecord.com/news/arti...ews2-laser.htm

This kinda stuff drives me nuts....

When people are either to ignorant, or think they can
get away with something, that is not okay.

'Hey dad, lets go shine the laser at some more planes
tonight, sure is fun'

The can lock up the whole family as far as I am conerned


Same subject has been kicking around sci.astro.amateur. Cheap little 5
mW (low power) green lasers are great for pointing out stars and
constellations. They create a green beam that's visible for maybe 1000
feet in dark skies. Very cool and very useful when pointing out the
heavens to others. Obviously they can be abused, but I suspect the
readily available ones are more of a threat to drivers. The beam just
doesn't have enough power to threaten an aircraft by blinding a pilot
(annoy, yes and I agree that adds risk). The big concern in amateur
astronomy is that "Homeland Security" will ban them and all low power
lasers because they constitute a "terrorist threat".
Now, high powered (like a few watts) lasers are a different story. The
lack of regulation for these beasties is unconscionable IMHO.

Shawn
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Old January 4th 05, 07:28 PM
snoop
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"By WAYNE PARRY, Associated Press Writer

NEWARK, N.J. - A man who initially claimed his daughter aimed a laser
at a helicopter was charged after he told federal agents that he
pointed the light beam at two aircraft, authorities said Tuesday.

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=B7 Complaint: U.S. v. Banach (FindLaw)



David Banach of Parsippany faces charges of interfering with the
operator of a mass transportation vehicle and making false statements
to the FBI (news - web sites). He is scheduled to appear in U.S.
District Court on Tuesday afternoon.
The aircraft were targeted by the lasers near Teterboro Airport"

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Old January 4th 05, 08:06 PM
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I haven't understood this "threat" since I first heard about it. Please
"'splain it to me Lucy".
How does someone on the ground shine a laser into an aircraft cockpit? Up
high, almost every angle to the cockpit is blocked by the plane itself.
Down low, most angles are still blocked because of the nose high attitude of
the plane.
Wouldn't you have to be ABOVE, or at least level with, the plane in order to
shine a laser into the cockpit? Shining it into the pilots eyes would be
even harder because the pilot sits back some distance from the windshield.
Help me out--I don't get it

"Stewart Kissel" wrote in
message ...
http://www.dailyrecord.com/news/arti...ews2-laser.htm

This kinda stuff drives me nuts....

When people are either to ignorant, or think they can
get away with something, that is not okay.

'Hey dad, lets go shine the laser at some more planes
tonight, sure is fun'

The can lock up the whole family as far as I am conerned






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Old January 5th 05, 09:15 AM
Marian Aldenhövel
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Hi,

How does someone on the ground shine a laser into an aircraft cockpit?


It may be hard to actually "hit" your target. But it is possible from
every spot the pilot has a direct line-of-sight to. Which is a lot of
real estate.

Ciao, MM
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Old January 5th 05, 04:19 PM
Stewart Kissel
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http://apnews.myway.com/article/20050105/D87DUR3O0.html

From reading this...it sounds like the beamn bounces
into the cockpit once it comes through the glass.

The guy doing this was no Einstein...he used the laser
on the helicopter looking for him.




At 00:31 05 January 2005, For Example John Smith wrote:
I haven't understood this 'threat' since I first heard
about it. Please
''splain it to me Lucy'.
How does someone on the ground shine a laser into an
aircraft cockpit? Up
high, almost every angle to the cockpit is blocked
by the plane itself.
Down low, most angles are still blocked because of
the nose high attitude of
the plane.
Wouldn't you have to be ABOVE, or at least level with,
the plane in order to
shine a laser into the cockpit? Shining it into the
pilots eyes would be
even harder because the pilot sits back some distance
from the windshield.
Help me out--I don't get it

'Stewart Kissel' wrote in
message ...
http://www.dailyrecord.com/news/arti...ews2-laser.htm

This kinda stuff drives me nuts....

When people are either to ignorant, or think they
can
get away with something, that is not okay.

'Hey dad, lets go shine the laser at some more planes
tonight, sure is fun'

The can lock up the whole family as far as I am conerned










 




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