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Sport Pilot ever going to happen?



 
 
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Old March 20th 04, 02:04 AM
Gilan
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Default Sport Pilot ever going to happen?


Only 24 days, 1 hours, 56 minutes, and 59 seconds left until Sun n Fun
I wonder if Sport Pilot will ever come out???

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Old March 21st 04, 01:01 PM
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"Gilan" wrote:


Only 24 days, 1 hours, 56 minutes, and 59 seconds left until Sun n Fun


The rumor is that it will be announced there.

Dennis.


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Old March 22nd 04, 03:57 PM
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Didn't the DOT sign off on it on December 23rd, meaning the Office of
Management and Budget (OMB) has 90 days to sign off and return it to
the FAA?

Isn't today (March 22nd) 90 days after December 23rd?
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Old March 22nd 04, 05:30 PM
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Governmental Rules, Regulations, and Procedures are required to be followed
by citizens, NOT Government Officials.



"Joepole" wrote in message
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Didn't the DOT sign off on it on December 23rd, meaning the Office of
Management and Budget (OMB) has 90 days to sign off and return it to
the FAA?

Isn't today (March 22nd) 90 days after December 23rd?



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Old March 22nd 04, 09:19 PM
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"Joepole" wrote in message
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Didn't the DOT sign off on it on December 23rd, meaning the Office

of
Management and Budget (OMB) has 90 days to sign off and return it to
the FAA?

Isn't today (March 22nd) 90 days after December 23rd?


I think I found the rule, just an Executive Order - #12866. OMB has
90 calendar days to complete review, but it can by mutual agreement be
extended another 30. After that and with no disputes to resolve, I
can't find anywhere in 5 USC (law governing agency rulemaking ) that
says how long an agency (FAA) has to publish the final.

Also, the criteria under which OMB reviews the rule appear to be
things which are not involved in Sport Pilot (e.g., excessive
regulation; conflict with other agency rules). So it's likely just a
matter where, in the grand scheme of things a rather minor rule, all
the parties use the full time given to tend to more important
rulemaking matters.

Fred F.

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Old March 23rd 04, 12:24 AM
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I just got a forward message, from one of the U.L. e-mail lists, hope its
bull,,,,,,, here it is,

Hi All,
It was announced at our ultralight safety seminar today by the
local FSDO that sport pilot rules is on hold. The rule was found to
have problems that need further reform after a recent review by FAA.
It will not be announced at Sun-N-Fun and possibly not at Oshkosh
this summer. Hurray, a reprieve for at least another year.


Wonder if its B.S. , anyone else attend this meeting, it was posted on
the 20th,,,
Scrappman

TaxSrv wrote:

"Joepole" wrote in message
om...

Didn't the DOT sign off on it on December 23rd, meaning the Office

of

Management and Budget (OMB) has 90 days to sign off and return it to
the FAA?

Isn't today (March 22nd) 90 days after December 23rd?


I think I found the rule, just an Executive Order - #12866. OMB has
90 calendar days to complete review, but it can by mutual agreement be
extended another 30. After that and with no disputes to resolve, I
can't find anywhere in 5 USC (law governing agency rulemaking ) that
says how long an agency (FAA) has to publish the final.

Also, the criteria under which OMB reviews the rule appear to be
things which are not involved in Sport Pilot (e.g., excessive
regulation; conflict with other agency rules). So it's likely just a
matter where, in the grand scheme of things a rather minor rule, all
the parties use the full time given to tend to more important
rulemaking matters.

Fred F.



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Old March 23rd 04, 04:53 AM
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Maybe they will have to do it again. Please raise the speed limit! (Actually, I
want a Vans RV-8 to qualify in case my BP goes up in a physical).

-- Charlie Springer
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Old March 23rd 04, 11:16 PM
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Sport Pilot is not on hold, See the comments just publiched on the USUA
site. - Bartman
From http://www.usua.org

03/23/2004: Sport Pilot Rumors Abound; And They Are Just That -
RUMORS

As Sport Pilot/Light Sport Aircraft weaves it's way through the
regulatory process, much anticipation and concern is felt by all who
will be affected by the new rules. Under these circumstances, rumors
and misinformation can be interpreted as truth.

Recently, at the Virginia State Ultralight Safety Seminar, at which I
was privileged to attend, it was reported by FAA that Sport Pilot was
sent back to FAA for a re-write, and that the rule was effectively on
hold. This information was given by the local Richmond FSDO Safety
Program Manager, so much interest was given to his statement.

After hearing this, I immediately contacted Sport Pilot Program
Manager Sue Gardner for verification and clarification. Ms. Gardner
replied directly to me via phone, just minutes ago, that this
information was NOT CORRECT. She stated that the rule was NOT SENT
BACK TO FAA FOR A RE-WRITE, AND THAT IS WAS INDEED STILL AT THE
OFFICE OF MANAGEMENT AND BUDGET PROGRESSING AS EXPECTED. She would
give no time frame to expect the rule to be released, however it is
safe to expect release later this year.

For those of us hungry for new information concerning this very
important regulation, it is sometimes easy to fall victim to any
rumor that may provide insight into what to expect. USUA cautions
everyone to wait until information is provided from the highest
levels of FAA before jumping to any conclusions. USUA is in direct
communication with persons in those offices, and will post only
confirmed updates.

United States Ultralight Association, Inc.
Dale Hooper
Executive Vice President


 




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