Israel Threatens to Hit Damascus-Next step of A Clean Break?:

Jordan wrote:
dontcowerfromthetruth wrote:
Keep in mind (when reading the following) that Syria has supposedly
made some sort of defense pact with Iran.

Syria and Iran have made an explicit, open defense pact.

As they have both been threatened by both Israel and the US as was Iraq and
they have seen the US slaughter in Iraq that is the least they should do.

So is attacking Damascus the
way the Zionists will expand the war for Israel to Syria and Iran next
(in accordance with the 'A Clean Break' agenda that esteemed
intelligence writer/author James Bamford discusses on pages 261-269/321
of his 'A Pretext for War' book - see the URL about such included after
the following) as Bush and Cheney have already said that the US would
come to Israel's aid if Israel is attacked which will most likely
happen if Israel gets into it with Syria and Iran:

Well damn, it would be _nice_ if this happened -- it would get the war
with Syria and Iran out into the open and put a powerful ally on our
side. Plus, Israel could smack around Syria, maybe bite off another
chunk of their territory, keeping the Syrians occupied while we took
out the Iranian regime. If, that is, we're ready for it.

http://www.giwersworld.org/opinion/running.phtml

2006 June 26

Palestinians guilty again
In the two weeks before Palestinians from Gaza destroyed an Israeli tank,
killing two, injuring one, kidnapping a fourth, had murdered 18 civilians in
Gaza including women, children and paramedics. But it is Palestinians who are
guilty for fighting back. It is always the same. Zionists can do no wrong.

But they kidnapped a member of the Israeli army!!! The day before Israeli troops
entered Gaza and kidnapped two Palestinians who have since disappeared. The
government press release said they were terrorists but they have not been
charged. They have not been heard of since. Ever wonder who sold Bush on the
idea of a prison in Guantanamo?

The real screw up in this was the failure of IDF policy to kill their own rather
than let them be taken prisoner. If Palestinians kill him it will be murder.
Looks to me like they will be doing the IDF's job for them.

Shocked?
Yes the IDF does have this policy and it is well known in Israel. The reason is
the voters get hysterical when it happens and demand the government make all the
concessions demanded. When it happens near elections the government has been
forced to do just that. The policy to kill their own is to avoid having to make
concessions to the occupied people.

And the world goes along with it
The IDF is enforcing a criminal occupation of Gaza. Why is the death of the
criminals more important than the deaths of the victims of occupation? Does
Israel control the news in the West? I have no answer to that question. I do
know the press behaves as though it is controlled by Israel.

Why does not the government of Palestine stop it?
The government does not have the arms needed because Israel does not want them
to have weapons. The government does not have money to pay men to make peace
because Israel does not want them to have money to pay salaries. The government
in the West Bank does not have access to Gaza because Israel does not want them
to have access to Gaza.

So first making it impossible for the Palestinian government to do anything
about it Israel then holds the government responsible for not stopping it. Where
is even a casual mention of the in the news? If Israel controlled the news it is
not clear how the coverage could better promote Israeli propaganda.

I don't know though that the timing of this is entirely or at all under
Israeli control. Remember that this all started because Hamas, feeling
its oats as the new government of "Palestine," has decided to continue
to step up terrorist operations against Israel, apparently not fully
grasping that _as the government_ these are much more clearly
Palestinian acts of war against Israel.

It all started because a bunch of murderous, thieving Europeans went to
Palestine with the explicite intention to expel the native population and steal
their property.

I also don't see why all this would be to the Israeli advantage, unless
this is combined with a long-term plan to drive the Palestinians out of
Gaza and the West Bank. I _hope_ that it is, but I greatly fear that
the Israelis still imagine peaceful coexistence with the Palestinians
possible -- they've been pursuing that mirage for a very long time now.

Why are you hoping for an additional war crime such as was found a hanging
offense at Nuremberg? Why do you support such a crime against humanity? Are you
a Nazi?

Though I do think that it's likely that Israel will emerge from this
First Terrorist War that began in 2001 with a stronger position
vis-a-vis the Islamic world

Resistance to occupation is the lawful right of every occupied people.

PS - I know full well that you meant this to be alarming and ominous.
However, I'm rather pro-Israeli, and see it as a good development for
the world if Israeli power grows.

Every attack on Israel is completely lawful.

http://www.giwersworld.org/israel/bombings.phtml

Killing Israelis accords with international law
by Matt Giwer, © 2004 [March]

Israel and its supporters, affectionately known as Izziehuggers , bemoan the
loss of lives proclaimed innocent when Israelis die. That is the usual "poor us"
self-pity. Like it or not, international law is on the side of the Palestinians.
International law specifically approves attacking members of a foreign military
and the destruction of military assets.

Attacking members of the foreign military with deadly force is approved by the
Geneva and Hague treaties. These agreements do not distinguish between on and
off duty. They do not distinguish between active duty and reserve.

Israel has universal military service. After all the loopholes and caveats are
considered 25-30% of Israelis are either active duty or reserve military. All of
them are legitimate targets. It would be improbably bad luck to bomb any
gathering of Israelis and not injure or kill at least one member of the Israeli
military. The simple presence of one member of the military, active or reserve,
justifies any and all attacks. Israel uses this principle when it kills a dozen
to get just one so there can be no objection to it.

In Israel the public transportation system is a military asset. It is used every
day to move troops around the country and back and forth from the occupied
territories. In time of war the entire system is commandeered to move troops to
the front. They are as much a military asset as a Humvee or a tank or a train in
Nazi Germany. Destroying them is not only legitimate but specifically approved.

In both cases those who might actually qualify as innocent such as children are
considered collateral damage. That makes them unfortunate and unintended
casualties in an otherwise lawful attack. The parents know the danger to which
they expose their children.

The ratio of collateral damage to the intended action is not a consideration in
that deaths and injuries are accepted when destroying military assets such as
buses. As there is no ratio between a bus and a life it is not a consideration.

Israel recognizes the acceptability of collateral loss of life and limb. It
dropped a one ton bomb into an apartment building at 2am to kill one man. In the
process seventeen others were killed and over a hundred injured. The Prime
Minister personally declared this to be a successful operation. Israeli
crocodile tears over their own dead while they do the same and worse is simply a
propaganda ploy -- one last cynical use for the dead.

Israel does have a way out of this. It can simply stop hiding its military among
civilians. It can prohibit its civilian population from using military assets
such as the bus system. If it were to take those steps it would have
justification to object when civilians are harmed.

Not only is this impractical it is in fact impossible. Ability to comply with
the rules does not change or even mitigate the rules. As long as Israel hides
its military among the civilian population all attacks are lawful.

Not only are they lawful but Israel excuses its killing of civilians with
exactly this argument. It states Palestinian freedom fighters aka terrorists are
hiding among the civilian population. Therefore civilians casualties do not
mitigate its attacks on its enemies.

Reference
Geneva Convention relative to the Protection of Civilian Persons in Time of War,
Articles 48-78

Paradise Now doesn't go this far and is still condemned. No question why
Zionists have worked so hard to shut down this website.

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