LINCOLN

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In article et, "Thomas
Schoene" wrote:

I'm sure the CO would have preferred to shoot the damned thing, 'cause
running it over cost him his command and likely his career.

Yeah, poor him. How many people died?




D

"D" wrote in message
nk.net...
Yeah, poor him. How many people died?

It is very likely that the dhow was sitting dead in the water, no lights, no
radar reflector, no crewman on watch, no radio, no flares, no clue.

Little craft share in the responsibility for their own safety.

Actually, the Kennedy (CIC, the bridge, and so the CO) had been aware
of the dhow for quite some time. Navy Times ran a fairly detailed
account, but apparently the CO elected to remain on Fox Corpen(some
problem with getting a laggard F-14 back aboard IIRC) even though that
would be bring the dhow close aboard.
Bottom line is the skipper knew about the dhow and ran over it
anyway...(And before anybody starts, I know, ball-diamond-ball and all
that)
Working from memory here...Will see if I can find the article later.

damron- It is very likely that the dhow was sitting dead in the water, no
lights, no
radar reflector, no crewman on watch, no radio, no flares, no clue.

Little craft share in the responsibility for their own safety. BRBR

I doubt the CO of the dhow knew that under international rules of the road, a
CV dring flight ops has the right of way. Too bad the CO of the Kennedy got
slammed, but it's 'lonely at the top'.
P. C. Chisholm
CDR, USN(ret.)
Old Phart Phormer Phantom, Turkey, Viper, Scooter and Combat Buckeye Phlyer

D- Yeah, poor him. How many people died? BRBR

Why don't you look at the whole picture. CO was running the CV, doing flight
ops at night and the dhow was dead in the water. Didn't the 'CO' of the dhow
have a clue?(no!) The accident was HIS fault, not the CO of the CV.
P. C. Chisholm
CDR, USN(ret.)
Old Phart Phormer Phantom, Turkey, Viper, Scooter and Combat Buckeye Phlyer

(Pechs1) wrote:

D- Yeah, poor him. How many people died? BRBR

Why don't you look at the whole picture. CO was running the CV, doing flight
ops at night and the dhow was dead in the water. Didn't the 'CO' of the dhow
have a clue?(no!) The accident was HIS fault, not the CO of the CV.
P. C. Chisholm

Bull.

While I have all sympathy for the trials and tribulations for a
Capt of a carrier maneuvering to pick up a possibly damaged
aircraft while dodging other watercraft they are just that,
'things to be avoided'...he didn't take the NECESSARY care and
killed people...ergo...
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-Gord.
(use gordon in email)

Gord Beaman wrote:
(Pechs1) wrote:


D- Yeah, poor him. How many people died? BRBR

Why don't you look at the whole picture. CO was running the CV, doing flight
ops at night and the dhow was dead in the water. Didn't the 'CO' of the dhow
have a clue?(no!) The accident was HIS fault, not the CO of the CV.
P. C. Chisholm

Bull.

While I have all sympathy for the trials and tribulations for a
Capt of a carrier maneuvering to pick up a possibly damaged
aircraft while dodging other watercraft they are just that,
'things to be avoided'...he didn't take the NECESSARY care and
killed people...ergo...

I bet if it had been an island, he'd have turned.

From a safety standpoint, both parties had opportunities to avoid the
incident. But as they say, if this incident was a bacon and egg
breakfast, the CO was the chicken, and the dhow skipper was the pig.

I'd have moved my dhow.

nafod40 wrote:

Gord Beaman wrote:
(Pechs1) wrote:


D- Yeah, poor him. How many people died? BRBR

Why don't you look at the whole picture. CO was running the CV, doing flight
ops at night and the dhow was dead in the water. Didn't the 'CO' of the dhow
have a clue?(no!) The accident was HIS fault, not the CO of the CV.
P. C. Chisholm

Bull.

While I have all sympathy for the trials and tribulations for a
Capt of a carrier maneuvering to pick up a possibly damaged
aircraft while dodging other watercraft they are just that,
'things to be avoided'...he didn't take the NECESSARY care and
killed people...ergo...

I bet if it had been an island, he'd have turned.

From a safety standpoint, both parties had opportunities to avoid the
incident. But as they say, if this incident was a bacon and egg
breakfast, the CO was the chicken, and the dhow skipper was the pig.

I'd have moved my dhow.

Doesn't sound fair to me...the dhow had full rights to be in his
position in the ocean, the carrier tried to usurp that
right...pretty simple I'd say.

You park your car in a public parking slot on a street, some jerk
totals it with his car...who's at fault?

Takes a big brain to figure that one out...
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-Gord.
(use gordon in email)

Gord Beaman wrote:

Doesn't sound fair to me...the dhow had full rights to be in his
position in the ocean, the carrier tried to usurp that
right...pretty simple I'd say.

Yea, but who's dead and who's not?

nafod40 wrote:

Yea, but who's dead and who's not?

Depends upon whether you're talking about life or career...

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Noah