Is the DC ADIZ on the charts?

from AVWeb:
"Frankly, we're a bit frustrated that pilots are still violating it,
and we don't know why," the FAA's William Shumann told AVweb
yesterday. "It's on the charts, it's on our Web site."

*Is* the DC ADIZ on the charts? Not on websites, on actual VFR
sectionals
and TACs?

Thanks!
Sydney

Snowbird ) wrote:

from AVWeb:
"Frankly, we're a bit frustrated that pilots are still violating it,
and we don't know why," the FAA's William Shumann told AVweb
yesterday. "It's on the charts, it's on our Web site."

*Is* the DC ADIZ on the charts? Not on websites, on actual VFR
sectionals
and TACs?

Yes, it is. On the Washington Sectional the entire ADIZ is devoid of
terrain shading, which makes the area really stand out.


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Peter R. wrote:
Yes, it is. On the Washington Sectional the entire ADIZ is devoid of
terrain shading, which makes the area really stand out.


No it's not. The inner Flight Restricted Zone (FRZ) is on the chart, but
the ADIZ is not.

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Peter R. ) wrote:


Yes, it is. On the Washington Sectional the entire ADIZ is devoid of
terrain shading, which makes the area really stand out.

Sheesh, my memory was wrong. I just looked at the scanned sectional on
Aeroplanner and only inner ring is missing terrain shading. The outer
boundaries are drawn on the sectional chart as heavy blue lines.

Sorry for the incorrect info.


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"Snowbird" wrote in message om...
from AVWeb:
"Frankly, we're a bit frustrated that pilots are still violating it,
and we don't know why," the FAA's William Shumann told AVweb
yesterday. "It's on the charts, it's on our Web site."

*Is* the DC ADIZ on the charts? Not on websites, on actual VFR
sectionals
and TACs?

No, the ADIZ is NOT charted. The FRZ is. It shows up as a big white
spotch centered over DC.

I got into a discussion with a representative of NACO at one of the local pilots
meetings. They claimed they couldn't put temporary stuff on charts. I pointed
out that was nonsense because:

1. Nobody has indicated the ADIZ is temporary. They did chart the FRZ which is
no less transient.
2. They have put TFR's on the chart before. We even had a special issuance of the
DC TAC and Sectionals denoting the TFR's during the preliminary rounds of the
Olympic soccer matches held in the area.

If they can make an exception for a few weeks during the Olympics, why can't they
fix the *@#$@ charts when it's supposed important to national security.

"Peter R." wrote in message ...
Snowbird ) wrote:

from AVWeb:
"Frankly, we're a bit frustrated that pilots are still violating it,
and we don't know why," the FAA's William Shumann told AVweb
yesterday. "It's on the charts, it's on our Web site."

*Is* the DC ADIZ on the charts? Not on websites, on actual VFR
sectionals
and TACs?

Yes, it is. On the Washington Sectional the entire ADIZ is devoid of
terrain shading, which makes the area really stand out.

That's the FRZ, not the ADIZ

"Peter R." wrote in message ...
Peter R. ) wrote:


Yes, it is. On the Washington Sectional the entire ADIZ is devoid of
terrain shading, which makes the area really stand out.

Sheesh, my memory was wrong. I just looked at the scanned sectional on
Aeroplanner and only inner ring is missing terrain shading. The outer
boundaries are drawn on the sectional chart as heavy blue lines.

That's NO depiction of the ADIZ at all. The blue lines are the Class B.
The ADIZ does not follow the class B bondaries. Look at the red lines
that AEROPLANNER.COM themselves draws on the chart on the south
side of the airspace. There is NO marking on the printed chart that
corresponds to the red line.

Ron Natalie ) wrote:

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2. They have put TFR's on the chart before.

Check out P-67, which is the expanded TFR surrounding the Kennebunkport,
ME, area. This TFR is depicted on the NY sectional as I (perhaps)
mistakenly thought of the ADIZ; devoid of terrain shading.

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Ron Natalie ) wrote:

That's NO depiction of the ADIZ at all.

Ah, fercrinoutloud. I'll just be crawling back into my hole now.

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"Snowbird" wrote in message
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from AVWeb:
"Frankly, we're a bit frustrated that pilots are still violating it,
and we don't know why," the FAA's William Shumann told AVweb
yesterday. "It's on the charts, it's on our Web site."

*Is* the DC ADIZ on the charts? Not on websites, on actual VFR
sectionals
and TACs?


AeroPlanner's online charts show it.

http://map.aeroplanner.com/mapping/c...yp=APT&txt=iad