Are we beginning to see the secondaries? Libya to abandom WMD

It is now on record that Libya earlier this year admitted to having WMD
programs, invited in inspectors and will dismantle the programs:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/3335965.stm

Is this the beginning of the useful changes in the middle east that
some suggested would follow the "more active" approach taken
in dealing with terrorist states?

It will be nice to see all countries with declared WMD (i.e. US, UK, Russia,
China, France, Israel, India, Pakistan) following Libya's moral example!!!

David
(from South Africa, the only country to independantly dismatle its
operational nuclear weapons program)

"John Keeney" wrote in message
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It is now on record that Libya earlier this year admitted to having WMD
programs, invited in inspectors and will dismantle the programs:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/3335965.stm

Is this the beginning of the useful changes in the middle east that
some suggested would follow the "more active" approach taken
in dealing with terrorist states?

Not to mention the occasional air strike.

Jarg

"Emmanuel Gustin" wrote in message
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"John Keeney" wrote in message
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Is this the beginning of the useful changes in the middle east that
some suggested would follow the "more active" approach taken
in dealing with terrorist states?

An alternative interpretation is that it shows that a regime
of sanctions, negotiation, and inspection can work. After
all it worked for Iraq, so why shouldn't it work for Lybia?

--
Emmanuel Gustin
Emmanuel.Gustin -rem@ve- skynet dot be
Flying Guns Page: http://users.skynet.be/Emmanuel.Gustin/

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"Emmanuel Gustin" wrote:

"John Keeney" wrote in message
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Is this the beginning of the useful changes in the middle east that
some suggested would follow the "more active" approach taken
in dealing with terrorist states?

An alternative interpretation is that it shows that a regime
of sanctions, negotiation, and inspection can work. After
all it worked for Iraq, so why shouldn't it work for Lybia?

Because it never did, until March of this year (when the negotiations
with Libya started - what a coincidence that happened right as we were
dismantling Iraq's military).

--
cirby at cfl.rr.com

Remember: Objects in rearview mirror may be hallucinations.
Slam on brakes accordingly.

Why? Are you worried those nations you cited will nuke your country?

More likely, South Africa could get into a war against a neighboring country
and that country might obtain nukes (from another countries' secret weapons
program) and flatten Johannesberg. Then again, maybe that wouldn't be such a
bad thing. But the problem there, is that such weapons could be used against
other targets too. More important ones. A much greater danger than those
countries you mentioned.


"David Nicholls" wrote in message
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It will be nice to see all countries with declared WMD (i.e. US, UK,
Russia,
China, France, Israel, India, Pakistan) following Libya's moral example!!!

David
(from South Africa, the only country to independantly dismatle its
operational nuclear weapons program)

"John Keeney" wrote in message
...
It is now on record that Libya earlier this year admitted to having WMD
programs, invited in inspectors and will dismantle the programs:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/3335965.stm

Is this the beginning of the useful changes in the middle east that
some suggested would follow the "more active" approach taken
in dealing with terrorist states?

It will be nice to see all countries with declared WMD (i.e. US, UK, Russia,
China, France, Israel, India, Pakistan) following Libya's moral example!!!


The US, UK and Russia have all deactivated and are destroying their Chemical &
Biological weapons.

(from South Africa, the only country to independantly dismatle its
operational nuclear weapons program)

You really don't expect a pat on the back do you? You guys never needed nuclear
weapons anyway, all you needed were a few dozen white police officers with
battons, a ghetto and several hundred of your fellow (darker) countrymen.


BUFDRVR

"Stay on the bomb run boys, I'm gonna get those bomb doors open if it harelips
everyone on Bear Creek"

It will be nice to see all countries with declared WMD (i.e. US, UK,
Russia,
China, France, Israel, India, Pakistan) following Libya's moral example!!!

David
(from South Africa, the only country to independantly dismatle its
operational nuclear weapons program)

Didn't Sweden do that too?

"tadaa" wrote in message ...
It will be nice to see all countries with declared WMD (i.e. US, UK,
Russia,
China, France, Israel, India, Pakistan) following Libya's moral
example!!!

David
(from South Africa, the only country to independantly dismatle its
operational nuclear weapons program)

Didn't Sweden do that too?


This website might answer some questions. Certainly they could have built
one and had plans to be able to do so quickly if needed. It seems they never
actually built a bomb.
http://www.folkkampanjen.se/nwchap2.html#HD_NM_30
There was also a plan for the SAAB A36 nuclear bomber too.
http://www.canit.se/~griffon/aviation/text/saabcanc/

Nick

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"Yama" wrote:

"Chad Irby" wrote in message
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"Emmanuel Gustin" wrote:
An alternative interpretation is that it shows that a regime
of sanctions, negotiation, and inspection can work. After
all it worked for Iraq, so why shouldn't it work for Lybia?

Because it never did, until March of this year (when the negotiations
with Libya started - what a coincidence that happened right as we were
dismantling Iraq's military).

Actually, Libyans began reconcilation with West after 1993, when UN
sanctions ruined shaky Libyan economy. That culminated to turning over
Lockerbie suspects in 1999. USA has kept the sanctions in effect.

....and *nothing* else has happened. Years and years of sanctions, and
they gave up a couple of guys (one of whom is in a "prison" better than
the place most people call home).

On the other hand, one little invasion of a country a thousand miles
away, and Libya gives up their WMD programs. And not to "the
international community," but to Britain and the US.

--
cirby at cfl.rr.com

Remember: Objects in rearview mirror may be hallucinations.
Slam on brakes accordingly.

"Nick Pedley" wrote in message
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"tadaa" wrote in message ...
It will be nice to see all countries with declared WMD (i.e. US, UK,
Russia,
China, France, Israel, India, Pakistan) following Libya's moral
example!!!

David
(from South Africa, the only country to independantly dismatle its
operational nuclear weapons program)

Didn't Sweden do that too?


This website might answer some questions. Certainly they could have built
one and had plans to be able to do so quickly if needed. It seems they
never
actually built a bomb.

Are you forgetting the Volvo 244?