IOIO board for SN10 to Samsung Galaxy Note 4

I'm looking to build this integration and put my miserably outdated Oudie out of its misery. Of course I am looking to run XC Soar or Top Hat on the Galaxy Note 4.

Has anyone built this specific IOIO board to date? If so please send me any lessons that you may have learned along the way.

I am ordering parts this weekend.

Thanks in advance!

Sean

I prefer SYM to XCSOAR - fully flexible screen layout and really easy to do what you need whether on the ground or in the air. I now have an Oudie IGC with bright screen, all day battery life, IGC logger (with wireless download), backup audio vario, and seamless integration with SeeYou for file setup. Please tell me what you prefer about XCSOAR other than that use of it is free.

On Saturday, May 9, 2015 at 6:54:49 AM UTC-7, waremark wrote:
I prefer SYM to XCSOAR - fully flexible screen layout and really easy to do what you need whether on the ground or in the air. I now have an Oudie IGC with bright screen, all day battery life, IGC logger (with wireless download), backup audio vario, and seamless integration with SeeYou for file setup. Please tell me what you prefer about XCSOAR other than that use of it is free.

In my opinion, XCSoar has a better UI in most respects than SYM. If those were the only two choices, I would pay for XCSoar even if SYM were free. Fortunately those aren't the only choices.

1) The UI
2) The flexibility of the Modern Android devices
3) The vastly higher resolution touch sensitivity of the modernAndroid devices (try using Oudie with your fingers and not the stylus)
3.1) pinch to zoom, two fingers to pan, etc.
4. The software itself (XC Soar vs SeeYou mobile which is essentially unchanged in a decade)
5) The ability to use cellular broadband data connectivity for a whole host of applications:
5.1) SKYLINES
5.2) Weather
5.3) Retrieve applications
5.3.1) GPS coordinates, etc
5.4) Device integration with SPOT or Delorme InReach Bluetooth connected applications
5.5) etc, etc, etc.
6) The VASTLY superior resolution of this the terrain map.
7) Automatic calculation of Final Glide over terrain.
8) I can go on and on and on and on....

Thanks for replying. I think some of that is a bit like saying the Porsche 911 is unchanged in 50 years. I always use fingers not stylus on SYM without difficulty, find zoom and pan easy, and by the way Oudie now has connectivity using bluetooth via a phone. The SYM UI works really well for frequent tasks like task entry which is slicker than XCS. Each to their own.

Yeah... But my big brother can beat up your big brother...

Each of these HW/SW systems has its advantages and disadvantages when
compared to the others. Each of us has his own concept of what works
best for him and what doesn't. Why not simply tell the pluses and
minuses of your system and not waste everyone's time by hammering all
the things you don't use? Note: This is not intended as an attack on
any one person but a comment on years of reading RAS.

On 5/10/2015 5:39 AM, waremark wrote:
Thanks for replying. I think some of that is a bit like saying the Porsche 911 is unchanged in 50 years. I always use fingers not stylus on SYM without difficulty, find zoom and pan easy, and by the way Oudie now has connectivity using bluetooth via a phone. The SYM UI works really well for frequent tasks like task entry which is slicker than XCS. Each to their own.

--
Dan Marotta

I would not want to be on the Oudie side of the debate table when debating any aspect of software, hardware or especially innovation potential. ;-). The Oudie is a cheap (and wildly overpriced), old product in my opinion. Sure, it does "work" and it does have integration solutions (Goddard cables, etc, also quite overpriced in my opinion) for most (also outdated usually) soaring electronics. What can I say, I have one too.

I still use an SN10 for example. Not the fountain of youth either but it works very well for everything except the infamous HAT task.

When it comes to affordable, innovative tech in the cockpit (once smartphones are fully allowed to shine) smartphones will be truly revolutionary for their simplicity and capability. That time is already here for non US contest flying. In fact it is quite painful to have to literally DISABLE my smartphone for a contest flight.

I agree, to each their own. I think be going a little further (building the IO board, etc) I will have a lot more fun soaring and learn a lot along the way...

Go flying!

The device you're getting the source data from isn't really relevant as long as you can figure out what pins the TX, RX and Gnd (and maybe +5v if you want to draw power off of the SN10) are on. Pipe those into an RS232 to logic level converter and then into the IOIO and you're good to go. I used the IOIO OTG board and the MAX 3232 breakout board (both from Sparkfun.com). I'm pulling GPS, wind, MacCready and bugs from a 302 into IOIO UART 0 (pins 3, 4) and FLARM traffic data into IOIO UART 1 (pins 5, 6). The 3232 board can handle two TX/RX pairs so it works beautifully.

Robert

On Saturday, May 9, 2015 at 7:57:18 AM UTC-5, Sean Fidler wrote:
I'm looking to build this integration and put my miserably outdated Oudie out of its misery. Of course I am looking to run XC Soar or Top Hat on the Galaxy Note 4.

Has anyone built this specific IOIO board to date? If so please send me any lessons that you may have learned along the way.

I am ordering parts this weekend.

Thanks in advance!

Sean

Thanks Robert. Great info. Soldering iron warming up...

On Saturday, May 9, 2015 at 4:42:25 PM UTC-5, Sean Fidler wrote:
Thanks Robert. Great info. Soldering iron warming up...

Sean, this is EXACTLY why many of us prefer the Oudie to building a "supposedly" superior system out of more "up to date" technology and software.

Buy it, hook it up, configure the displays to your liking (or use the defaults if you are really lazy or computer-challenged) and go fly. Oudie does that, at a fraction of the cost of the higher end systems.

Myself, I'll probably stick to my SN10+Oudie2+PF setup until something significantly better is available (and I don't see XCsoar as "significantly better" than SYM, in the ways I use my moving map). Right now, what I'm watching is the evolution of iGlide and the sunlight readability of the big iPhones - when they meet my personal criteria of features and cost-effectiveness, then I might retire my Oudie. My SN10, OTOH, stays until it dies, I like it so much...

And, as a big believer in redundancy - I would never want my primary nav display to also be my retrieve phone, etc. That's just asking for Murphy to have a go!

Meanwhile, have fun with your science project and keep us posted!

Kirk
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