MAD about the Strikehawk

(Peter Stickney) wrote:

(Krztalizer) wrote in message ...

If you look closely you can see the "V" formed by the landing gear assembly,
a signature H-60 look. Also, the fuselage looks just way too long.

...and there is no smoke trail :1

I just took a look at the picture, and y'now, I think that it
just might be an old H-34/HUS/HSS-1. Really.
The 4 bladed rotor, the stabilizer on one side of the tail
rotor pylon, the V-shaped gear struts... In order to get
that rainbow the sun's gotta be above & behind the helicopter.
With that tall, thin fuselage, that sort of sun angle would
make a shadow like that.

OK, I'm lost. *What* page - link please - has this confusing
picture on it? If it's "old H-34/HUS/HSS-1", I might be able to
confirm it, having racked up a *lot* of aircrew hours in Marine
H-34s. As it is, on the SH-60/SH-2 pages I looked at off the
original link, I saw nothing particularly H-34ish.
--
OJ III
[Email sent to Yahoo addy is burned before reading.
Lower and crunch the sig and you'll net me at comcast]

Ogden Johnson III wrote:
(Peter Stickney) wrote:
(Krztalizer) wrote in message ...
If you look closely you can see the "V" formed by the landing gear assembly,
a signature H-60 look. Also, the fuselage looks just way too long.

...and there is no smoke trail :1

I just took a look at the picture, and y'now, I think that it
just might be an old H-34/HUS/HSS-1. Really.
The 4 bladed rotor, the stabilizer on one side of the tail
rotor pylon, the V-shaped gear struts... In order to get
that rainbow the sun's gotta be above & behind the helicopter.
With that tall, thin fuselage, that sort of sun angle would
make a shadow like that.

OK, I'm lost. *What* page - link please - has this confusing
picture on it? If it's "old H-34/HUS/HSS-1", I might be able to
confirm it, having racked up a *lot* of aircrew hours in Marine
H-34s. As it is, on the SH-60/SH-2 pages I looked at off the
original link, I saw nothing particularly H-34ish.

Yeah, it's a different page on the same site.

http://globalsecurity.org/military/s.../sh-2-pics.htm

Follow the rainbow.

-HJC

OK, I'm lost. *What* page - link please - has this confusing
picture on it? If it's "old H-34/HUS/HSS-1", I might be able to
confirm it, having racked up a *lot* of aircrew hours in Marine
H-34s. As it is, on the SH-60/SH-2 pages I looked at off the
original link, I saw nothing particularly H-34ish.

Yeah, it's a different page on the same site.

http://globalsecurity.org/military/s.../sh-2-pics.htm

Follow the rainbow.

I think its a 60, and the other horizontal stab is just distorted, perhaps by
the exhaust plume that crosses the photo at the same level as the missing stab.
Look at the photo - taken from the starboard cargo door of an aircraft, look
at it and feel it. Its in a creep, just before entering a hover. Look down at
the shadow, the fixed landing gear. Where do I lay my 20..?

j/k of course; would be very interested to hear the details of the photograph's
subject.

v/r
Gordon

.....man, I've looked at that photo 50 times and if its really an SH-2F, I swear
I never saw THAT view out the door.

"Henry J Cobb" wrote in message
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Ogden Johnson III wrote:
(Peter Stickney) wrote:
(Krztalizer) wrote in message
...
If you look closely you can see the "V" formed by the landing gear
assembly,
a signature H-60 look. Also, the fuselage looks just way too long.

...and there is no smoke trail :1

I just took a look at the picture, and y'now, I think that it
just might be an old H-34/HUS/HSS-1. Really.
The 4 bladed rotor, the stabilizer on one side of the tail
rotor pylon, the V-shaped gear struts... In order to get
that rainbow the sun's gotta be above & behind the helicopter.
With that tall, thin fuselage, that sort of sun angle would
make a shadow like that.

OK, I'm lost. *What* page - link please - has this confusing
picture on it? If it's "old H-34/HUS/HSS-1", I might be able to
confirm it, having racked up a *lot* of aircrew hours in Marine
H-34s. As it is, on the SH-60/SH-2 pages I looked at off the
original link, I saw nothing particularly H-34ish.

Yeah, it's a different page on the same site.

http://globalsecurity.org/military/s.../sh-2-pics.htm

Follow the rainbow.

-HJC


It's definitely not an H-34 or derivative. There's not enough room in the
nose for an 1820-84 and clutch to be stuffed in, it has turbo nacelles on
top, and the tail wheel is too far forward.

Rick

(Peter Stickney) wrote in
om:

nt (Krztalizer) wrote in message
...

If you look closely you can see the "V" formed by the landing gear
assembly, a signature H-60 look. Also, the fuselage looks just way
too long.


...and there is no smoke trail :1

I just took a look at the picture, and y'now, I think that it
just might be an old H-34/HUS/HSS-1. Really.
The 4 bladed rotor, the stabilizer on one side of the tail
rotor pylon, the V-shaped gear struts... In order to get
that rainbow the sun's gotta be above & behind the helicopter.
With that tall, thin fuselage, that sort of sun angle would
make a shadow like that.

Nope, not an H-34. The horiz stab is too close to the 90 deg gearbox for
that. The -34 stab is way down by the "el" in the boom.

See: http://www.fly-navy.de/helis/sh34_2.jpg

Dave in San Diego

--
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"For once you have tasted flight, you will walk the earth with your eyes
turned skyward;
For there you have been, and there you long to return."
Leonardo da Vinci

"Yofuri" wrote:

"Henry J Cobb" wrote in message

Ogden Johnson III wrote:

I just took a look at the picture, and y'now, I think that it
just might be an old H-34/HUS/HSS-1. Really.
The 4 bladed rotor, the stabilizer on one side of the tail
rotor pylon, the V-shaped gear struts... In order to get
that rainbow the sun's gotta be above & behind the helicopter.
With that tall, thin fuselage, that sort of sun angle would
make a shadow like that.

OK, I'm lost. *What* page - link please - has this confusing
picture on it? If it's "old H-34/HUS/HSS-1", I might be able to
confirm it, having racked up a *lot* of aircrew hours in Marine
H-34s. As it is, on the SH-60/SH-2 pages I looked at off the
original link, I saw nothing particularly H-34ish.

Yeah, it's a different page on the same site.

http://globalsecurity.org/military/s.../sh-2-pics.htm

Follow the rainbow.

It's definitely not an H-34 or derivative. There's not enough room in the
nose for an 1820-84 and clutch to be stuffed in, it has turbo nacelles on
top, and the tail wheel is too far forward.

Agree. [overlooked the rainbow reference in the first quote -
sigh] Maximizing that picture cleared it up. Memo to self -
don't try to make decisions about pictures of shadows complicated
by lousy resolution/smears/spray/whatever in certain portions.
--
OJ III
[Email sent to Yahoo addy is burned before reading.
Lower and crunch the sig and you'll net me at comcast]

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"Yofuri" writes:
"Henry J Cobb" wrote in message
...
Ogden Johnson III wrote:
(Peter Stickney) wrote:
(Krztalizer) wrote in message
...
If you look closely you can see the "V" formed by the landing gear
assembly,
a signature H-60 look. Also, the fuselage looks just way too long.

...and there is no smoke trail :1

I just took a look at the picture, and y'now, I think that it
just might be an old H-34/HUS/HSS-1. Really.
The 4 bladed rotor, the stabilizer on one side of the tail
rotor pylon, the V-shaped gear struts... In order to get
that rainbow the sun's gotta be above & behind the helicopter.
With that tall, thin fuselage, that sort of sun angle would
make a shadow like that.

OK, I'm lost. *What* page - link please - has this confusing
picture on it? If it's "old H-34/HUS/HSS-1", I might be able to
confirm it, having racked up a *lot* of aircrew hours in Marine
H-34s. As it is, on the SH-60/SH-2 pages I looked at off the
original link, I saw nothing particularly H-34ish.

Yeah, it's a different page on the same site.

http://globalsecurity.org/military/s.../sh-2-pics.htm

Follow the rainbow.

-HJC


It's definitely not an H-34 or derivative. There's not enough room in the
nose for an 1820-84 and clutch to be stuffed in, it has turbo nacelles on
top, and the tail wheel is too far forward.

Taking a better look, (ANd hauling out my old H-34 model & squinting
at it from various angles, I'd have to say that you're right.
(Although the -34 had a humped back as well). The big giveaway is teh
horizontal stabilizer. On th H-34, it's symmetrical, shorter in span,
and low down on the tail rotor pylon.

--
Pete Stickney
A strong conviction that something must be done is the parent of many
bad measures. -- Daniel Webster

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Dave in San Diego writes:
(Peter Stickney) wrote in
om:

nt (Krztalizer) wrote in message
...

If you look closely you can see the "V" formed by the landing gear
assembly, a signature H-60 look. Also, the fuselage looks just way
too long.


...and there is no smoke trail :1

I just took a look at the picture, and y'now, I think that it
just might be an old H-34/HUS/HSS-1. Really.
The 4 bladed rotor, the stabilizer on one side of the tail
rotor pylon, the V-shaped gear struts... In order to get
that rainbow the sun's gotta be above & behind the helicopter.
With that tall, thin fuselage, that sort of sun angle would
make a shadow like that.

Nope, not an H-34. The horiz stab is too close to the 90 deg gearbox for
that. The -34 stab is way down by the "el" in the boom.

See: http://www.fly-navy.de/helis/sh34_2.jpg

You're right guys. (I can't be perfect _all_ the time, dangit!)
I'd like to call it an Optical Illusion based on the low sun angle of
the shadow and the camera angle, but it was really a misfiring brain
circuit simewhere.

--
Pete Stickney
A strong conviction that something must be done is the parent of many
bad measures. -- Daniel Webster

On 07 Mar 2004 23:59:50 GMT, nt (Krztalizer) wrote:




Bobby Wickes' site is sort of the repository for guys in my former field. He
and Devo do a great job and I keep meaning to forward a stack of photos to them
- a couple of friends and I run a companion SH-2F site called
"SeaspriteCentral.com", for those of you that are interested.


is there a http:// or a www in front of the url? neither of which
can be found...

The RNZAF has 4 SH-2G's for the RNZN ANZAC frigates (MEKO 240's) which
are a quantum leap above the old Wessex Wasps...

Bobby Wickes' site is sort of the repository for guys in my former field.
He
and Devo do a great job and I keep meaning to forward a stack of photos to
them
- a couple of friends and I run a companion SH-2F site called
"SeaspriteCentral.com", for those of you that are interested.


is there a http:// or a www in front of the url? neither of which
can be found...

oops - its SeaspriteCentral.org sorry for the mistake. For Bobby's website,
its this: http://www.users.cts.com/sd/b/bwickes/

The RNZAF has 4 SH-2G's for the RNZN ANZAC frigates (MEKO 240's) which
are a quantum leap above the old Wessex Wasps...

Well, like most people, I am a thoroughly biased bystander - I always loved the
SH-2, even though I was only vaguely aware of them at first. I hope the crews
have great success with their nimble little Seasprites. Charles Kaman did an
outstanding job with his unique blade flap controls and many other innovations
incorporated into his ASW helicopters. The SH-2G is a mature, capable system
for a small force's needs and my only regret about their Seasprites is that I
will never strap into one.

v/r
Gordon
====(A+C====
USN SAR

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