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Tom- Civil Air Patrol? BRBR
think ya gotta own yer aircraft. I don't think they 'employ' pilots. P. C. Chisholm CDR, USN(ret.) Old Phart Phormer Phantom, Turkey, Viper, Scooter and Combat Buckeye Phlyer |
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"Pechs1" wrote in message ... Tom- Civil Air Patrol? BRBR think ya gotta own yer aircraft. I don't think they 'employ' pilots. Not necessarily. Many wings supply aircraft to the squadrons. All pilots are volunteers. Funding may have changed since I gave it up, but the only paid missions were, for SAR, assigned by Scott AFB or by the state for training exercises. Any othe flying (training/currency) was out of pocket, but was reasonable. The main reason I dropped out was the politics and, as a 30 military year retiree, being treated like a snuffy by former WW II Corporals and Privates wearing LtCol leaves. Leanne Former Sqdn Cmdr SC Wing |
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"Pechs1" wrote in message ... Doug- Pechs, I'm interested in knowing what you actually decide upon. BRBR I'll let ya know. Knew the airlaines was not something I wanted(OBE now anyway). Wearing a blue suit and being gone 50% of the time was something I did for 20 years, no mas.... Looking at perhaps buying a share of some small, tandem, cloth covered, 'nose wheel in the back'(taildragger) type aircraft, so to not have to pay $100 per hour for making noise outta avgas. Just want to fly around.... Ever think of instructing? If you don't mind working for peanuts, there are always gigs out there; and there are finally some new trainers out there so you are not condemned to flying junk. I have a little flying job (that I insist be only one day a week) instructing in sailplanes and giving sailplane rides. I suppose they pay me, but the money is not the object; I think of it as a "free hobby" and a free way to "scratch the itch". My favorite part of the job is the rides, there is something wonderful about being up in the air with someone who is wide-eyed and having the time of their life. My students are about 50-50 ab-initio vs. older power pilots transitioning to gliders. There is also the soaring job at the other end of the rope...flying the tow plane, usually something with the nose wheel in the back. Vaughn |
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"Leanne" wrote in message
think ya gotta own yer aircraft. I don't think they 'employ' pilots. Not necessarily. Many wings supply aircraft to the squadrons. All pilots are volunteers. In MI when I was in H.S. they had a couple of Aeronca Champs and a 172, donated by folks and maintained by bakes sales, airplane washes, etc. In WI in the mid-'70s we had a 172, DeHaviland Beaver, and one or two others with the maintenance donated by Kearny-Trecker. In both places many members did own their own aircraft and donated a lot of time. Funding may have changed since I gave it up, but the only paid missions were, for SAR, assigned by Scott AFB or by the state for training exercises. My recollection, also. Any othe flying (training/currency) was out of pocket, but was reasonable. Ayup. A good way to get some "free" time was to take the Cadets up on some of the syllabus flights that taught basic pilotage and other nav. skills. Funding for that came from donated funds in both places. The main reason I dropped out was the politics and, as a 30 military year retiree, being treated like a snuffy by former WW II Corporals and Privates wearing LtCol leaves. Ain't it the truth!!!!! And the PAPERWORK! Imagine U.S.A.F. regulations, reports, and general ethos applied to a part time organization with almost no funding. Still, the CAP helped get me through private pilot ground school. In WI it was a way to get some free flight time. And it is a VERY worthwhile organization to help youngsters stay away from some of society's less savory passtimes. And, of course, the Navy Wings got more than a few stares, comments, and inquiries!g Bill Kambic If, by any act, error, or omission, I have, intentionally or unintentionally, displayed any breedist, disciplinist, sexist, racist, culturalist, nationalist, regionalist, localist, ageist, lookist, ableist, sizeist, speciesist, intellectualist, socioeconomicist, ethnocentrist, phallocentrist, heteropatriarchalist, or other violation of the rules of political correctness, known or unknown, I am not sorry and I encourage you to get over it. |
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Got taildragger time? Go find a soaring operation, and volunteer to be
tow pilot. You'll work your way into gliders too, which is probably the most fun you can have flying, civilian-wise. Pechs1 wrote: bravoz- Don't know how current you are in anything, but I just retired from this outfit....worth a look: BRBR Not current in anything(altho I have an ATP), but not really interested in wearing a blue suit and being gone any more...BTDT.... Want a local flying 'job', or perhaps buying a share in a bugsmasher. Renting for $100 an hour just to make noise outta avgas just isn't in my future. P. C. Chisholm CDR, USN(ret.) Old Phart Phormer Phantom, Turkey, Viper, Scooter and Combat Buckeye Phlyer |
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naf- Got taildragger time? BRBR
Nope but my next A/C is gonna be one.... P. C. Chisholm CDR, USN(ret.) Old Phart Phormer Phantom, Turkey, Viper, Scooter and Combat Buckeye Phlyer |
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Didn't do 30 years but did look into CAP. Good cause, should have known
that something was up with the local wing lost its based plane due. My wife worked with one of the ground CAP guys and was encouraging me to have a look. Met the guys in the wing... The two or three pilots at the time were nice guys. One of them was a CFI I'd run across a time or two with very poor judgement. I believe the FAA took action against him eventually. Then I met the recruiting officer who was OK until he found out I was a pilot. The next words out of his mouth were you better not think this is a flying club, you will be expected to do all the other stuff too. Then I learned I'd be reporting to that guy later on and he was big into the drill and spit and polish. Nothing like being drilled by a wannabe. Sorry been there done that. Got paid to put up with that BS before why would I do it now for free. If I'm gonna consider doing that I'd be better off talking to the local ARNG or Army Reserve and seeing if they can use a 40ish year old pilot. Pechs, I've got time in a few GA planes. For the money an Aeronca 7AC is a nice and simple plane. The third wheel is in the right spot too. Prices are still relatively low for decent ones and parts aren't too hard to find. I've got time in two of them locally, one an 7AC and the other an L-16. Pretty economical in terms of fuel use too. It can be embarassing though to be doing IFR (I follow roads)in a Champ and having cars pass you by. Chris Leanne wrote: "Pechs1" wrote in message ... Tom- Civil Air Patrol? BRBR think ya gotta own yer aircraft. I don't think they 'employ' pilots. Not necessarily. Many wings supply aircraft to the squadrons. All pilots are volunteers. Funding may have changed since I gave it up, but the only paid missions were, for SAR, assigned by Scott AFB or by the state for training exercises. Any othe flying (training/currency) was out of pocket, but was reasonable. The main reason I dropped out was the politics and, as a 30 military year retiree, being treated like a snuffy by former WW II Corporals and Privates wearing LtCol leaves. Leanne Former Sqdn Cmdr SC Wing |
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Want to fly cheap?
Go to your local ultralight airport and find some poor fool who can't make the payments on his new toy. Give him half of what it's worth, take a refresher course on today's "rules of the road", then head for the blue! No license needed if you do not carry passengers, etc. It's the second most fun you can ever have without your "tailhook"! WDA end "Pechs1" wrote in message ... After wandering around this Aviation NG, gotta find a way to fly again...anything. Small business ownership is a PIA, gotta see what i can scare up-any suggestions?? 'Will fly for food' sign? P. C. Chisholm CDR, USN(ret.) Old Phart Phormer Phantom, Turkey, Viper, Scooter and Combat Buckeye Phlyer |
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"Chris Spierings" wrote in message
Snipped for brevity I've got time in a few GA planes. For the money an Aeronca 7AC is a nice and simple plane. The third wheel is in the right spot too. Prices are still relatively low for decent ones and parts aren't too hard to find. I've got time in two of them locally, one an 7AC and the other an L-16. Pretty economical in terms of fuel use too. It can be embarassing though to be doing IFR (I follow roads)in a Champ and having cars pass you by. Damn, talk about a trip down memory lane! I took lessons at McKinley Field near Detroit during the summer of '64. They had two Champs, IIRC, a 65 hp and a 90 hp (I would have to dig out my old log books to check the numbers). The 65 hp bird had no electrical system and air-ground comm was open the window and yell (and they could hear you; and you could hear them GG). The 90 hp bird had an electrical system, a "coffee grinder" VHF comm VOR receiver. Was the preferred cross country bird for students. While it had an electrical system, it did not have an electric starter. You either had to get "propped" or you could use a ingenious "ratchet" system. By the pilot's left leg there was a large handle that connected to a gear at the nose of the engine. You could do the "switch off-contact" routine all by yourself. Took a pretty good pull. When they got a C150, just before I took my test, it was seen as the Bently of trainers (it had a crystal controlled nav/comm AND an electric starter). Damn, sometimes I feel old.g Bill Kambic If, by any act, error, or omission, I have, intentionally or unintentionally, displayed any breedist, disciplinist, sexist, racist, culturalist, nationalist, regionalist, localist, ageist, lookist, ableist, sizeist, speciesist, intellectualist, socioeconomicist, ethnocentrist, phallocentrist, heteropatriarchalist, or other violation of the rules of political correctness, known or unknown, I am not sorry and I encourage you to get over it. |
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