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Old January 6th 20, 08:39 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Safety!

At 16:56 06 January 2020, Pat Russell wrote:
A mismatch between the Task and the actual conditions is a normal part

of
the game.

The only condition for cancelling a day after the gate is open is clear
evidence of unfairness. Perhaps this was the case, but no justification
has been published, so far.


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Old January 6th 20, 08:46 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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The finer points of the rules is always an interesting question.
After looking in the sporting code and local procedures, still seems like a good call. It will be interesting how the fires affect the rest of the tasking.

In the FAI rules, there are words which permit using local procedures to augment the FAI rules. These are approved by FAI prior to the contest.

The local procedures for this contest appear to have anticipated this situation and given the CD the tools to deal with it.




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Old January 6th 20, 08:47 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Wouldn't the safest instruction been to tell all the contestants to land ASAP? If visibility was too poor to continue the soaring contest task then Wouldn't it be too poor to soar back home too?
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Old January 6th 20, 11:06 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Mon, 06 Jan 2020 11:47:36 -0800, Tony wrote:

Wouldn't the safest instruction been to tell all the contestants to land
ASAP? If visibility was too poor to continue the soaring contest task
then Wouldn't it be too poor to soar back home too?


From the British team news reports, it seems that they flew into an area
of dense smoke / deduced visibility. Presumably, and this looks likely
from the task maps since all tasks went further north than in any other
direction, this would mean that when they were flying home after the
recall, they'd be flying out of the area of poor visibility.


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Old January 6th 20, 11:26 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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US Team report indicates the concern was based on visibility during final glide...

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Things seemed to settle down at a “grim but acceptable” level and pilots proceeded with their tasks, finding good lift to around 9000’ in a few areas, and occasionally struggling to reach 6000’. Our local expert pilot and Task Setter – Bruce Taylor – launched as a scout. His initial report of 20+ km visibility was encouraging. But around 3:30 he encountered troublesome smoke and haze – bad enough to make final glides and finishes potentially dangerous. His advice, various forecasts and other input led (shortly before 4pm) to the decision to cancel the task. It was a serious disappointment to many pilots, most of whom had been racing hard in challenging conditions for 3 hours and more. They now had to fly home – up to 140 km, through the thickening smoke – with their efforts rendered meaningless.
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Old January 7th 20, 12:01 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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At 19:47 06 January 2020, Tony wrote:
Wouldn't the safest instruction been to tell all the contestants to land
ASAP? If visibility was too poor to continue the soaring contest task

then
Wouldn't it be too poor to soar back home too?

Wouldn't that be a decision best left to pilots who are on-the-spot, once
the task had been cancelled?


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Old January 7th 20, 04:08 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Monday, January 6, 2020 at 3:15:05 PM UTC-8, Tim Newport-Peace wrote:
At 19:47 06 January 2020, Tony wrote:
Wouldn't the safest instruction been to tell all the contestants to land
ASAP? If visibility was too poor to continue the soaring contest task

then
Wouldn't it be too poor to soar back home too?

Wouldn't that be a decision best left to pilots who are on-the-spot, once
the task had been cancelled?


According to the local rules, input was allowed from various sources and they apparently pointed towards cancellation.
Sylvia and Kathy, due to their early start, got away from the worst visibility earlier and without that mess (especially in reduced visibility) called a gaggle. Where they were as the task was cancelled was not bad, and there were just the two of them.
Oh, well...

Visibility today is better.
They're all on course.

Something to give you an idea of the visibility is look at the Keepit webcam in the morning AEST.
https://keepitsoaring.com/webcam/
Before we left for Australia, the tree line wasn't always visible.
Jim
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Old January 7th 20, 04:11 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Start early and pray for smoke?
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Old January 9th 20, 08:11 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Saturday, January 4, 2020 at 7:55:40 AM UTC-5, Karl Striedieck wrote:
SHE SCOOOORRRRREES! Sarah Arnold clobbered the field on the first day at the Women's Worlds in Australia.


Sarah continues to lead. The TC reports by John Good are excellent reading, really painting a good picture of what's happening. The lack of supportive comments is, however, disappointing. I know from WGC and PAGC crewing that the team is always buoyed by hearing from others. If you have a chance, why not contribute? https://ussoaringteams.org/news/ . Reading a few of them to the team before briefing is a morale boost at 106F!

Go North America!
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Old January 9th 20, 10:03 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Some supporting info:
Pretty exhausting.
Each team pilot has flown 45 hours or more so far.
So far, every day has been over 100F, 40C.
The dust has been crazy.
Launches take longer than normal due to dust devils ripping across the runway.
I think there are facebook and instagram pages, and links have been posted.
Or look at SSA website for links.
Ritz' blog is good too.
Film at 11,
Jim


 




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