Time to medical help

On Feb 21, 8:11*pm, Mxsmanic wrote:
Robert M. Gary writes:
So are you saying the Epipens that several of the dads in the troop
who are medical doctors put in the kit are fake?

I'm saying that each needs a prescription for use. *Epipens contain controlled
substances. *They can only be used subsequent to a valid prescription. *You
cannot just carry them around for self-service any more than you can carry
Fentanyl around.

So as a Scout Master if I'm standing over a boy going into shock I
can't give him his Epipen? I have to wait for a a medical evac?? The
dad's in the troop who are MD's have provided training for us to admin
the pen and I have a list of which boys are known to have severe
reactions to such things.

-Robert

Robert M. Gary writes:

So as a Scout Master if I'm standing over a boy going into shock I
can't give him his Epipen?

If he has a prescription for the device, no problem (or if you are a licensed
physician, no problem).

The dad's in the troop who are MD's have provided training for us to admin
the pen and I have a list of which boys are known to have severe
reactions to such things.

Are there prescriptions for each boy who needs the pen?

Epinephrine is a prescription drug (FDA regulated). It may be carried
just as any other prescription drug may be: with proper prescription.
Such epinephrine prescriptions (usually for autoinjectors such as
Epipens) cover patients such as those with an anaphylaxis risk.

Fentanyl is a prescription drug (FDA), and it is also a controlled
substance (Drug Enforcement Agency of the Department of Justice). It
may be carried just as other controlled substances may be: with proper
prescription. Such fentanyl prescriptions (usually for transmucosal
fentanyl such as Actiq) cover patients such as those with opioid-treated
cancer pain.

David



David Kazdan, MD, PhD
Anesthesiologist



Mxsmanic wrote:
Robert M. Gary writes:

So are you saying the Epipens that several of the dads in the troop
who are medical doctors put in the kit are fake?

I'm saying that each needs a prescription for use. Epipens contain controlled
substances. They can only be used subsequent to a valid prescription. You
cannot just carry them around for self-service any more than you can carry
Fentanyl around.

"Viperdoc" wrote in
:

Remember that Anthony is not a physician and has never studied
medicine. He knows nothing about physiology, prescriptions, or
anything remotely related to medicine. (the same is true for flying).





Anthony has yet to demonstrate knowledge of anything pertaining to
life as we know it. The closest relationship between Anthony and real life
is the Microsoft BSD, which is an extremely accurate simulation of
Anthony's brain whenever he attempts to think.