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OT - Anyone here own a restaurant?
Does the university have a program in hospitality? If so, the
faculty will probably have the experience you need. Otherwise, you may want to contact some of the schools (Johnson & Wales, Colorado Culinary Arts, Food Network, etc) about it. It's a business -- you need a business plan, etc. You may also want to contact some of the more successful restaurants at airports. These shops really do a very large catering business for the bizjets, etc. in addition to the walk-in crowd. "Perfect Landing" at APA is a great example. They used to be open only for breakfast & lunch but last year also opened for dinner (usually only the locals will be there for dinner). Booming business. If the school has a hotel & restaurant program, then they'll be delighted to use you as an internship source! Experience for the students, affordable labor for you. |
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"Martin Hotze" wrote in message ...
if you have no idea on how to run it: stay away from it, better: run! I've been in far too many hotels/restaurants with poor management followed by poor service and crap meals (here in Europe and in the US). And with no fundamental training you might succeed with a hotel, but not with a restaurant, at least here in central Europe. Awh, 'ell, Jay's in Iowa... When in doubt, serve corn and the locals will be happy... It's not like they know what *real* BBQ is all about... |
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"Grumman-581" wrote in message ... "Martin Hotze" wrote in message ... if you have no idea on how to run it: stay away from it, better: run! I've been in far too many hotels/restaurants with poor management followed by poor service and crap meals (here in Europe and in the US). And with no fundamental training you might succeed with a hotel, but not with a restaurant, at least here in central Europe. Awh, 'ell, Jay's in Iowa... When in doubt, serve corn and the locals will be happy... It's not like they know what *real* BBQ is all about... But is that a viable business plan? To me, it would make more sense to physically integrate the restaurant with the hotel. Then, the locals can eat and enjoy themselves, while visitors are not inconvenienced. |
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message news:
Anyone here own/operate/manage a restaurant? Got any words of advice? Any advice on finding someone who DOES know something about restaurants? Loads of experience. Want to do it yourself? Likely OK. Want to hire people to run it for you. Not OK. That's it in a nutshell. I can spare a few moments on private email if you wish. moo |
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Jay Honeck wrote:
So the land adjacent to the inn is for sale, and we want to put an aviation themed restaurant on the site. It'll be the perfect fly-in restaurant, with breakfast all day, decent prices, ugly waitresses, and a 2nd-floor patio over-looking the airport. We want to call it "the Tower", and it'll have a great view of the runways! Trouble of it is, we don't know *anything* about running a restaurant. Now, this never stopped us before -- we didn't know anything about hotels, either -- but, hey, this sounds WAY more complicated, from my uneducated standpoint. Anyone here own/operate/manage a restaurant? Got any words of advice? Any advice on finding someone who DOES know something about restaurants? There are quite a few discouraging remarks on this subject. If only guaranteed successes were executed, we wouldn't have any businesses at all. My advice is to analyze restaurants of this ilk that have failed. I know the 4th Fighter Group did and it was located right next to Orlando Executive Airport. (Totally out of control at the end... the waiter and the cook were shoving each other!) And look for a partner that knows the business. Maybe give him/her a slice of the Inn in turn for running the restaurant. Finally, figure out just how bad the damage will be if it does fail. Consider the impact on your family... does that mean your kids won't go to college because you blew all your savings? |
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OT - Anyone here own a restaurant?
You have to sell a lot of $4.00 hamburgers, $2.00 hotdogs etc. to make a
decent amount of money. True. However, I see a restaurant as a necessary adjunct to the Inn, nothing more. If it were to merely break even -- but double out hotel business -- I'd be a happy guy. :-) God knows it's a great location. They're building a Super Wal-Mart down the road from us (if it ever gets out of court), which should increase traffic, oh, 5000% or so? -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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"Avilon"
--Bill |
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"Death Wish Cafe"
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OT - Anyone here own a restaurant?
Will it be adjacent to the airport property and as such will pilots be
able to taxi up there to the restaurant, tie their plane down, and eat? Sadly, no. But it will be right across a small road from the fence, and we've tentatively received permission to allow planes to park on the other side of the fence. (We'll have to put in a gate.) It'll be maybe a 100 yard walk. One thing that you might want to consider is differentiating your restaurant from other local restaurants by way of menu... My experience up there in Iowa while on contract for Rockwell Collins was that there are NO good BBQ restaurants in the entire state. Agreed, but from a slightly different angle. Iowa City is like the "anti-Iowa" in many ways. It's got dozens of "fru-fru" restaurants (a rarity in the rest of Iowa), thanks to the University crowd, all of which serve tiny portions at outrageous prices. You can get excellent Indian, Vegetarian, Mediterranean, Japanese, French, and California (whatever *that* is) cuisine -- but you CAN'T get a decent burger or breakfast served all day for less than $15 per person. IMHO, a restaurant with those two items, reasonably priced and served fresh, would make a mint in this goofy town. -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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OT - Anyone here own a restaurant?
"Jay Honeck" wrote in message news:Qv7xf.690299$x96.490384@attbi_s72... You have to sell a lot of $4.00 hamburgers, $2.00 hotdogs etc. to make a decent amount of money. True. However, I see a restaurant as a necessary adjunct to the Inn, nothing more. If it were to merely break even -- but double out hotel business -- I'd be a happy guy. :-) God knows it's a great location. They're building a Super Wal-Mart down the road from us (if it ever gets out of court), which should increase traffic, oh, 5000% or so? -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" Our restaurant is just a convenience to our customers as well. Like I said it is not a big money maker but it is just another nice perk for our customers. There is a really nice restaurant at MIE (Vince's if I recall correctly) that gets more local non-aviation folks as customers than anything else. It is an upscale dinner restaurant that really seems to work well with lots of old aviation memorabilia. ------------------------------------- DW |
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