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Military aviation mishaps
from Navy Times of February 23, 2004 p.32
"Cockpit errors, op tempo cited as air-mishaps cause" Aviation mishaps, 1980-2003. the number of Class A aircraft mishaps - those involving loss of life or more than $1 million in damage - dropped from 1980 to 2001 but spiked over the past two years of the war on terrorism. The services mishap rates since 1980: Service Total Rate* Navy 821 2.33 Air Force 1,010 1.46 Army 603 1.80 Marine Corps 369 4.07 DOD 2,803 2.41 *Class A mishaps per 100,000 flight hours Mike |
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"Doug \"Woody\" and Erin Beal" wrote in message ...
SNIP Culturally, the brief also cited a greater propensity for Navy and Marine Corps pilots to willfully violate SOP or FAR's than their Army or Air Force counterparts. (Although anecdotally, I can come up with an example or two of why I doubt that's true.) --Woody SNIP - So can I. Perhaps (undoubtedy) USAF and even Army aircrews are more cunning. One has to be caught to be charged with a violation. Walt BJ |
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Anecdotal evidence, yes, but I think their corporate cover up makes sense culturally because of the USAF's very tight regulation and zero tolerance for mistakes. I agree, the Air Force has always been better at PR then the other services. As long as we are on the subject, there was an incident a few years back when a younger F-14 pilot was on a cross country flight and stopped to re-fuel at his home town airport, just so his family could see him. The F-14 crashed on either takeoff or departure while leaving the hometown airport. Not sure how he justified landing at a non-military airfield for re-fueling unless there weren't any military airfields around - I think that was one of the focal points of the accident investigation. Not sure if he was hot-dogging it when departing or if something just went wrong. Perhaps someone else has more accurate details. JD |
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On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 19:41:31 GMT, Joe Delphi wrote:
I agree, the Air Force has always been better at PR then the other services. You misspelled Marines... -Jeff B. yeff at erols dot com |
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Joe Delphi wrote:
Not sure how he justified landing at a non-military airfield for re-fueling unless there weren't any military airfields around They carry credit cards for this. -- Jim carry on ----== Posted via Newsfeed.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups ---= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- |
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Joe Delphi wrote: Anecdotal evidence, yes, but I think their corporate cover up makes sense culturally because of the USAF's very tight regulation and zero tolerance for mistakes. I agree, the Air Force has always been better at PR then the other services. As long as we are on the subject, there was an incident a few years back when a younger F-14 pilot was on a cross country flight and stopped to re-fuel at his home town airport, just so his family could see him. The F-14 crashed on either takeoff or departure while leaving the hometown airport. Not sure how he justified landing at a non-military airfield for re-fueling unless there weren't any military airfields around - I think that was one of the focal points of the accident investigation. Not sure if he was hot-dogging it when departing or if something just went wrong. Perhaps someone else has more accurate details. JD It happens all the time. I live in Savannah GA, and a local airport operation (FBO) has a govt. fuel contract, even though MCAS Beaufort is about 30 miles away as the Hornet flies, Hunter Army AF is about 6 miles away, and there is a large ANG C-130 base on the other side of the field. Back before 9/11, when elderly airport kids were allowed on the ramp to rubberneck, I spent a lot of Friday afternoons there. I saw all manner of military aluminum, from Harriers and Hornets to Sherpas, T-34's, and various mil versions of biz jets. The pilots got better and faster service, a nicer pilots' lounge and less hassle. People coming to meetings and conferences at Hunter would even land and leave their planes at the Savannah airport and drive to the Army base. ( Note: this was not a runway preference decision. Hunter used to be a B-47 base and is a shuttle alternate landing site.) I think the taxpayer dollars came out about the same. PS - One T-34C arrived during a Bonanza fly-in event. I told the guys they had the ugliest Bonanza there, but could win any races! Bob McKellar |
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Understand that, but isn't that sort of for emergency or unplanned
situations like having to divert because of mechanical problem or possibly low fuel because of stronger than expected headwinds or something like that. I always thought that when filing the DD-175 plan you should plan your route for re-fueling at military bases unless it just isn't possible for some reason. JD "Jim Herring" wrote in message ... Joe Delphi wrote: Not sure how he justified landing at a non-military airfield for re-fueling unless there weren't any military airfields around They carry credit cards for this. |
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Bob- The pilots got better and faster service, a nicer pilots' lounge and
less hassle. BRBR You bet, anybody remember the 'Tulsa Turnaround'? Was met at the jet by scantily clad babes with a cold drink...pre tailhook fiasco. What airpatch was that? P. C. Chisholm CDR, USN(ret.) Old Phart Phormer Phantom, Turkey, Viper, Scooter and Combat Buckeye Phlyer |
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