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old hoodoo wrote: Been riding since the early 50s and by the grace of God only had one serious rag doll. I'd have to disagree with the "utterly lack imagination and have no conception of getting hurt" part in my case. As I cruise down the concrete ribbon I am more than aware of the delicacy and insanity of my position. Just inches from some very hard and abrasive substance not to mention the brain dead cagers talking on their cell phones. I’ve never talked to a motorcyclist who didn’t know In this context, what's a cager? Where I live (US) it's a basketball player. -- Blinky Linux Registered User 297263 Who has implemented Usenet Solution #45933: Now killing all posts originating at Google Groups http://blinkynet.net/comp/ggfilters.html for rules |
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old hoodoo wrote:
Greasy wrote: On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 18:32:09 -0500, old hoodoo postulated : Some pilots and motorcycle jock's I know utterly lack imagination and have no conception of getting hurt. It may be due in part to extreme self-confidence and perhaps a little ego boost at not being a pussy. Been riding since the early 50s and by the grace of God only had one serious rag doll. I'd have to disagree with the "utterly lack imagination and have no conception of getting hurt" part in my case. As I cruise down the concrete ribbon I am more than aware of the delicacy and insanity of my position. Just inches from some very hard and abrasive substance not to mention the brain dead cagers talking on their cell phones. I’ve never talked to a motorcyclist who didn’t know he was skating on the edge of survival and most will tell you that in almost any event the motorcyclist will have his life forever changed. The freedom that removing the state mandated helmet and simply enjoying the breeze is almost intoxicating. Kinda like cruising in an open helocopter two feet AGL. Don’t think I’ve ever considered the ego aspect of not being a pussy but I hear that you are what you eat. Greasy The great thing about P---- is that unlike cake, you can eat it and have it too. Damned tootin...and you can smoke after either (or both) encounter(s)!... -- -Gord. (use gordon in email) |
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Blinky the Shark wrote:
In this context, what's a cager? Where I live (US) it's a basketball player. It's someone who does their motoring in a cage (automobile). -- John Miller Co-Founder, Pensacola Press Club |
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Dale L. Falk sent:
There is nothing - absolutely nothing - half so much worth doing as simply messing around with airplanes. God Bless You, can't think of a better way to put it myself! 8-) Retired USN P-3B/C Aircrew in 1995. Boy do I miss flying! Don McIntyre Clarksville, TN |
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Dudley Henriques wrote: It has nothing to do with feeling secure. It has everything to do with understanding how hard the ground is when you hit it in something like a P51. I flew a Mustang for many hours with a baseball cap. Hard helmets are a REAL pleasure at altitude with the sun pouring in on them. It's like having your head in a pizza oven. You wear them in the military because that's where they put the avionics and O2 crap. In fast airplanes, If you dig a hole at the speeds your airplane is capable of handling, it won't matter much what you have on your head. Your head AND the helmet will probably end up on some tree branch dangling in the wind anyway. On a bike you have a nice breeze to cool off your bean. In a 51, you're under a magnifying glass on a hot sunny day! Bob Hoover uses a soft plantation hat that he sits on enroute, then puts on after he lands to keep the sun out of his eyes while he taxies in. I did the same on more than one occasion. A helmet WILL save you from the occasional "bump" on the head, but everything considered, many of us opt not to wear one if we have the option. It has nothing to do with overconfidence and everything to do with quality of life! :-) Dudley Henriques International Fighter Pilots Fellowship Commercial Pilot; CFI; Retired dhenriquestrashatearthlinktrashdotnet (take out the trash :-) Greasy Rider=A9 @invalid.com wrote in message ... I was browsing a newsgroup just now and saw a gentleman flying a P-51 Mustang with what appears to be just a common ball cap. I got to wondering if he is that secure in his abilities and crash worthiness of the air frame to simply wear a ball cap? As a motorcyclist I feel very strange if I'm not wearing the very best helmet that I can afford. Why would a pilot operate a high performance aircraft with anything less? I know that a high dollar helmet and other protective gear has no guarantees whether it's a car, motorcycle, pony or aircraft. Am I missing something? Is the pilot simply exercising his freedom to take his chances? (The law won't let me do that in some states.) |
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On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 14:14:08 -0400, Ragnar wrote:
Top speed of a P-51 is over 400 mph. Exactly which helmet is going to help him in a crash? Sounds like a job for a BC-1. ;-) Know of several guys in the RAF who've had their faces/eyes saved from bird strikes. One guy had a bird come right through the window in front of him in an Albert. Bird hit him in the face. Window obviously slowed the bird down alot, and the visor undoubtedly saved his eyes from flying glass/bird parts. He now wears a helmet even in light (civvie) aircraft. -- Steve. |
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"Steve" wrote in message ... On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 14:14:08 -0400, Ragnar wrote: Top speed of a P-51 is over 400 mph. Exactly which helmet is going to help him in a crash? Sounds like a job for a BC-1. ;-) Know of several guys in the RAF who've had their faces/eyes saved from bird strikes. One guy had a bird come right through the window in front of him in an Albert. Bird hit him in the face. Window obviously slowed the bird down alot, and the visor undoubtedly saved his eyes from flying glass/bird parts. He now wears a helmet even in light (civvie) aircraft. -- Steve. After the carrier fires in the sixties, especially the Forrestal fire, most people were convinced of the wisdom or wearing helmet and gloves from the moment you manned your aircraft, no matter how uncomfortable it was. A number of guys on the Forrestal and the Enterprise have made comments about gloves and helmet saving them from serious burns, while they were setting in their aircraft. One of the better know (to the public) people to make this comment was McCain. Red |
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He was probably wearing a headset for communications. That wouldn't fit
over or under a helmet. -- Darrell R. Schmidt B-58 Hustler History: http://members.cox.net/dschmidt1/ - Greasy Rider© @invalid.com wrote in message ... I was browsing a newsgroup just now and saw a gentleman flying a P-51 Mustang with what appears to be just a common ball cap. I got to wondering if he is that secure in his abilities and crash worthiness of the air frame to simply wear a ball cap? As a motorcyclist I feel very strange if I'm not wearing the very best helmet that I can afford. Why would a pilot operate a high performance aircraft with anything less? I know that a high dollar helmet and other protective gear has no guarantees whether it's a car, motorcycle, pony or aircraft. Am I missing something? Is the pilot simply exercising his freedom to take his chances? (The law won't let me do that in some states.) |
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