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Airplane prices are ridiculous, Pt.2
Mxsmanic wrote:
Mark writes: Not really Mxsmanic. For instance, in the trainers I've flown (Cessna 172's, 152's, Piper J-3's) not once do I remember exceeding 115 mph, but in the right LSA you could be clipping along at near 140mph. That's practical time-saving transportation. To be practical for actual transportation, you generally need an instrument rating (unless you live out in the desert somewhere where weather is never a factor). Sport pilots can't get that. I guess it's okay for people flying for fun, particularly if they cannot pass a medical. A private pilot by definition is flying for fun. -- Jim Pennino Remove .spam.sux to reply. |
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Airplane prices are ridiculous, Pt.2
lucky lindy wrote:
wrote I guess it's okay for people flying for fun, particularly if they cannot pass a medical. Exactly! That's what I'd be doing too, if I could afford it. Isn't that the whole idea of the Sport Pilot certificate. Why else would someone with a PPL want to restrict himself with a LSA? The good old days when almost any airport had a couple of stick-and-rudder tail draggers around for rental are long gone. Recreation flying has become out of reach for many. But what the hell, I can't afford a Beemer, either. grin How would a private pilot be restricted by flying a LSA? Most LSA's have lights, which means you can fly them at night. Some LSA's are IFR equipped, which means you can fly them IFR. -- Jim Pennino Remove .spam.sux to reply. |
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wrote in message ... lucky lindy wrote: wrote I guess it's okay for people flying for fun, particularly if they cannot pass a medical. Exactly! That's what I'd be doing too, if I could afford it. Isn't that the whole idea of the Sport Pilot certificate. Why else would someone with a PPL want to restrict himself with a LSA? The good old days when almost any airport had a couple of stick-and-rudder tail draggers around for rental are long gone. Recreation flying has become out of reach for many. But what the hell, I can't afford a Beemer, either. grin How would a private pilot be restricted by flying a LSA? Jim Pennino A private pilot without a medical or the hopes of ever having another one would be restricted to the Sport Pilot limits in a LSA. But that is all moot anyhow if he can't afford the LSA. |
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Airplane prices are ridiculous, Pt.2
sambodidley wrote:
wrote in message ... lucky lindy wrote: wrote I guess it's okay for people flying for fun, particularly if they cannot pass a medical. Exactly! That's what I'd be doing too, if I could afford it. Isn't that the whole idea of the Sport Pilot certificate. Why else would someone with a PPL want to restrict himself with a LSA? The good old days when almost any airport had a couple of stick-and-rudder tail draggers around for rental are long gone. Recreation flying has become out of reach for many. But what the hell, I can't afford a Beemer, either. grin How would a private pilot be restricted by flying a LSA? Jim Pennino A private pilot without a medical or the hopes of ever having another one would be restricted to the Sport Pilot limits in a LSA. But that is all moot anyhow if he can't afford the LSA. And those limits would be? Keep in mind if you have a private, you already have all the Sport Pilot optional training. -- Jim Pennino Remove .spam.sux to reply. |
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Airplane prices are ridiculous, Pt.2
On Sep 11, 1:30*pm, wrote:
Mxsmanic wrote: Mark writes: Not really Mxsmanic. *For instance, in the trainers I've flown (Cessna 172's, 152's, Piper J-3's) not once do I remember exceeding 115 mph, but in the right LSA you could be clipping along at near 140mph. That's practical time-saving transportation. To be practical for actual transportation, you generally need an instrument rating (unless you live out in the desert somewhere where weather is never a factor). Sport pilots can't get that. I guess it's okay for people flying for fun, particularly if they cannot pass a medical. A private pilot by definition is flying for fun. -- Jim Pennino Remove .spam.sux to reply. Jim Pennino wrote A private pilot by definition is flying for fun. Oh really? I guess my peer private pilots are a self selected group, we fly our complex singles mostly for business purposes and have the costs covered by expense accounts. |
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Airplane prices are ridiculous, Pt.2
sambodidley writes:
A private pilot without a medical or the hopes of ever having another one would be restricted to the Sport Pilot limits in a LSA. But that is all moot anyhow if he can't afford the LSA. And a private pilot also needs a medical to get his license, so that makes it moot as well. If he loses his medical, he's not eligible for a Sport Pilot certificate. |
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Airplane prices are ridiculous, Pt.2
Mxsmanic wrote:
sambodidley writes: A private pilot without a medical or the hopes of ever having another one would be restricted to the Sport Pilot limits in a LSA. But that is all moot anyhow if he can't afford the LSA. And a private pilot also needs a medical to get his license, so that makes it moot as well. If he loses his medical, he's not eligible for a Sport Pilot certificate. If your medical has been denied, you can't fly airplanes period. If you have ever had a private and it hasn't been revoked, you can fly as a sport pilot. There is no way to downgrade a private certificate to a sport pilot certificate. -- Jim Pennino Remove .spam.sux to reply. |
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Airplane prices are ridiculous, Pt.2
"Mxsmanic" wrote in message ... sambodidley writes: A private pilot without a medical or the hopes of ever having another one would be restricted to the Sport Pilot limits in a LSA. But that is all moot anyhow if he can't afford the LSA. And a private pilot also needs a medical to get his license, so that makes it moot as well. If he loses his medical, he's not eligible for a Sport Pilot certificate. He hasn't lost his medical. He just doesn't have a current one and hasn't failed one nor had one recalled. He can still fly a LSA under his PPL with a drivers license but only under a Sport Pilot's limits. But still. the major limiting factor in his case is the cost. Affordable rentals are no longer available and haven't been in decades. |
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Airplane prices are ridiculous, Pt.2
a wrote:
On Sep 11, 1:30Â*pm, wrote: Mxsmanic wrote: Mark writes: Not really Mxsmanic. Â*For instance, in the trainers I've flown (Cessna 172's, 152's, Piper J-3's) not once do I remember exceeding 115 mph, but in the right LSA you could be clipping along at near 140mph. That's practical time-saving transportation. To be practical for actual transportation, you generally need an instrument rating (unless you live out in the desert somewhere where weather is never a factor). Sport pilots can't get that. I guess it's okay for people flying for fun, particularly if they cannot pass a medical. A private pilot by definition is flying for fun. -- Jim Pennino Remove .spam.sux to reply. Jim Pennino wrote A private pilot by definition is flying for fun. Oh really? I guess my peer private pilots are a self selected group, we fly our complex singles mostly for business purposes and have the costs covered by expense accounts. I wouldn't advertise that too widely. The FAA and IRS have some terribly convoluted and arcane rules that can bite you in the ass big time. Yeah, I know, your official response is you fly for business instead of driving because flying is fun. Right? -- Jim Pennino Remove .spam.sux to reply. |
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