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Old December 26th 07, 11:52 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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Default Harley oil cooler for interior heat.

I don't have heat inside my canard plane. Now am considering piping
hot engine oil to the cabin through a small oil cooler with a blower.
I am looking at a Harley Dyna oil cooler - about the right size. My
question is whether such a cooler will stand the typical aircraft oil
pressure. My engine oil pressure goes up to about 80 psi when cold
then goes down to about 60 psi. I have seen Harleys with oil cooler
pressure gauges 60psi. But shouldn't they have an extra safety stress
factor?

Any bike experts out there?

I already had an engine heat exchanger with the fan there that I tried
but there was too much CO coming through - so I removed the air
plumbing.
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Old December 27th 07, 01:02 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
Morgans[_2_]
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Default Harley oil cooler for interior heat.


wrote

I don't have heat inside my canard plane. Now am considering piping
hot engine oil to the cabin through a small oil cooler with a blower.
I am looking at a Harley Dyna oil cooler - about the right size. My
question is whether such a cooler will stand the typical aircraft oil
pressure. My engine oil pressure goes up to about 80 psi when cold
then goes down to about 60 psi. I have seen Harleys with oil cooler
pressure gauges 60psi. But shouldn't they have an extra safety stress
factor?


It seems like I recall someone saying that the oil cooler did not put out
enough heat in the winter to be very useful.

It would seem like the bike cooler would be tough enough. I would use it,
but put two in line petcocks in the line to bypass the cooler, and put them
where you can reach it while you are flying. If it did leak, you could turn
it off, but as big of a consideration is the fact that you will not want to
be using it in the summer, anyway!
--
Jim in NC


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Old December 27th 07, 04:31 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
Bill Daniels
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Default Harley oil cooler for interior heat.


"Morgans" wrote in message
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wrote

I don't have heat inside my canard plane. Now am considering piping
hot engine oil to the cabin through a small oil cooler with a blower.
I am looking at a Harley Dyna oil cooler - about the right size. My
question is whether such a cooler will stand the typical aircraft oil
pressure. My engine oil pressure goes up to about 80 psi when cold
then goes down to about 60 psi. I have seen Harleys with oil cooler
pressure gauges 60psi. But shouldn't they have an extra safety stress
factor?


It seems like I recall someone saying that the oil cooler did not put out
enough heat in the winter to be very useful.

It would seem like the bike cooler would be tough enough. I would use it,
but put two in line petcocks in the line to bypass the cooler, and put
them where you can reach it while you are flying. If it did leak, you
could turn it off, but as big of a consideration is the fact that you will
not want to be using it in the summer, anyway!
--
Jim in NC


Not enough heat? Try flying a GLIDER at -50F. Can you say, "electric
socks"?


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Old December 27th 07, 05:11 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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Default Harley oil cooler for interior heat.


"Bill Daniels" bildan@comcast-dot-net wrote in message
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Not enough heat? Try flying a GLIDER at -50F. Can you say, "electric
socks"?


Bill,

That is why I do my glider maintenance in the winter. Wave flying is just
to cold for my old bones.

Wayne
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Old December 30th 07, 01:30 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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Default Harley oil cooler for interior heat.

Why go to all the plumbing hassles, use electric heat, cheaper, lighter,
safer....

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Have a great day

Scott
"Anthony W" wrote in message
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wrote:
I don't have heat inside my canard plane. Now am considering piping
hot engine oil to the cabin through a small oil cooler with a blower.
I am looking at a Harley Dyna oil cooler - about the right size. My
question is whether such a cooler will stand the typical aircraft oil
pressure. My engine oil pressure goes up to about 80 psi when cold
then goes down to about 60 psi. I have seen Harleys with oil cooler
pressure gauges 60psi. But shouldn't they have an extra safety stress
factor?

Any bike experts out there?

I already had an engine heat exchanger with the fan there that I tried
but there was too much CO coming through - so I removed the air
plumbing.


That same cooler is sold for other bikes that have higher oil pressure.
Harleys usually only have 4 or 5 PSI oil pressure because the roller
bottom end doesn't need pressure only volume. My local VW shop has plate
type oil coolers much cheaper than the Harley ones. It wouldn't hurt to
check out your local VW shops and auto parts stores then there's always
aircooled.net .

Tony



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Old January 1st 08, 11:37 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
Kyle Boatright
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Default Harley oil cooler for interior heat.

I have never heard anyone who was happy with the little quartz heaters
typically used in EZ's and the like. The concensus seems to be that the
amount of heat put out is very limited and consumes an enormous (at least
from a GA perspective) amount of electricity.

"XYZ" wrote in message
. ..
Why go to all the plumbing hassles, use electric heat, cheaper, lighter,
safer....

--
Have a great day

Scott
"Anthony W" wrote in message
news:wTCcj.2631$si6.495@trndny08...
wrote:
I don't have heat inside my canard plane. Now am considering piping
hot engine oil to the cabin through a small oil cooler with a blower.
I am looking at a Harley Dyna oil cooler - about the right size. My
question is whether such a cooler will stand the typical aircraft oil
pressure. My engine oil pressure goes up to about 80 psi when cold
then goes down to about 60 psi. I have seen Harleys with oil cooler
pressure gauges 60psi. But shouldn't they have an extra safety stress
factor?

Any bike experts out there?

I already had an engine heat exchanger with the fan there that I tried
but there was too much CO coming through - so I removed the air
plumbing.


That same cooler is sold for other bikes that have higher oil pressure.
Harleys usually only have 4 or 5 PSI oil pressure because the roller
bottom end doesn't need pressure only volume. My local VW shop has plate
type oil coolers much cheaper than the Harley ones. It wouldn't hurt to
check out your local VW shops and auto parts stores then there's always
aircooled.net .

Tony




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Old January 2nd 08, 07:46 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
Dan Youngquist
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Default Harley oil cooler for interior heat.

On Sat, 29 Dec 2007, XYZ wrote:

Why go to all the plumbing hassles, use electric heat, cheaper, lighter,
safer....


Because a (for example) 80 amp alternator puts out only a nominal 960
watts at 12v. Even if you could use all that for heating -- which of
course you can't -- it would be a pretty anemic heater.

-Dan
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Old January 2nd 08, 09:59 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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Default Harley oil cooler for interior heat.

As the original poster that was my problem too. I only have a 60A
alternator and could not afford the heat from a typical fan heater. I
need that alternator for important things - like keep flying.

On Jan 2, 1:46 pm, Dan Youngquist wrote:
On Sat, 29 Dec 2007, XYZ wrote:
Why go to all the plumbing hassles, use electric heat, cheaper, lighter,
safer....


Because a (for example) 80 amp alternator puts out only a nominal 960
watts at 12v. Even if you could use all that for heating -- which of
course you can't -- it would be a pretty anemic heater.

-Dan

 




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