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Venus Airships / by Brad Guth
"BradGuth" wrote in message ... On May 5, 6:32 pm, "Hagar" wrote: "BradGuth" wrote in message ... On May 5, 7:25 am, "Hagar" wrote: "BradGuth" wrote in message snip floating airbag Why don’t you suggest whatever makes Hagar a happy camper. .. – Brad Guth OK, Brad, I would like to see big gigantic ****ing gondolas, like those in Venice, only 100 times larger. We could hire genuine Wap gondoliers to operate huge foam rubber paddles to propel us through the acidic vapor. A 1/4 inch cover of old fashioned axle grease should suffice for protection from the Sun and some old WWII Kraut helmets for protection against any other debris floating around. Some bagpipes for background music would be nice. Marshmallows could be toasted by merely hanging them over the edge for about 5 seconds. See, I'm with you all the way on this. So, Heavens to Murgatroyd, let's get cracking on the design of this ever so futuristic venture. |
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Venus Airships / by Brad Guth
On May 6, 2:25 pm, "Hagar" wrote:
"BradGuth" wrote in message ... On May 5, 6:32 pm, "Hagar" wrote: "BradGuth" wrote in message ... On May 5, 7:25 am, "Hagar" wrote: "BradGuth" wrote in message snip floating airbag Why don’t you suggest whatever makes Hagar a happy camper. . – Brad Guth OK, Brad, I would like to see big gigantic ****ing gondolas, like those in Venice, only 100 times larger. We could hire genuine Wap gondoliers to operate huge foam rubber paddles to propel us through the acidic vapor. A 1/4 inch cover of old fashioned axle grease should suffice for protection from the Sun and some old WWII Kraut helmets for protection against any other debris floating around. Some bagpipes for background music would be nice. Marshmallows could be toasted by merely hanging them over the edge for about 5 seconds. 5 seconds might even be good enough to defrost a frozen pizza, that is if you'd landed where it's 735 K or better. Otherwise, at 50 km and within the season of nighttime it's kind of cool outside, and even by their season of day it's just getting nicely desert like warm and relatively crystal dry. See, I'm with you all the way on this. So, Heavens to Murgatroyd, let's get cracking on the design of this ever so futuristic venture. Let us start off with the outer shell or composite hull, though not hardly so futuristic because, I believe most everything necessary has already been invented. We just have to carefully select from any number of viable options. If really big or even aerodynamically sleek and unified blimp like isn't an option, then how about using 5 spheres of 10 meters diameter each for creating this 50 meter long prototype of our robotic airship. With some careful reductions in its inert mass, a fully terrestrial capable version (similar to a 60~65 km Venus application) should be doable, especially since modern electrical and electronic technology has gotten so much more energy efficient and micro in size, as well as representing hardly any payload mass. . - Brad Guth |
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Venus Airships / by Brad Guth
On May 5, 7:19*am, BradGuth wrote:
On May 5, 12:34 am, LIBERATOR wrote: Brad what did you think of that "Disclosure Project"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vyVe-6YdUkorwww.disclosureproject.org Thanks to our popular mainstream media that'll publish and/or exclude whatever they're told by those in charge, and otherwise by that of our "no child left behind" policy, I didn't here a darn thing about it, and Usenet/Groups certainly didn't make much if anything of it. (wonder why) Besides the fact that ETs do exist, and that it's quite likely they have also existed/coexisted on Venus (because that's technically doable), what if anything of this "Disclosure Project" doings had anything whatsoever to do with any composite rigid airship, as intended for cruising Venus? In other words, why did you fail to grasp the meaning or intent of this topic "Venus Airships"? . - Brad Guth I found that it's semi-truthful, they're lying purposefully leaning that "yeah UFOs exist, but they're not by man they're by space monsters". We all know the NAZIs under Hitler invented UFOs, and because Hitler eliminating debt they don't want the culture to be discovered, so they have to use extraterrestrials, or rather "space monsters" to be the originating source of UFOs. We all know NASA has them and they're way beyond the speed of light. www.greyfalcon.us Brad please review this book completely, I bought it before knowing it was online, you can save yourself $20.00 http://www.missilegate.com/rfz/index2.htm It's solid fact that the NAZIs invented UFOs. |
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Venus Airships / by Brad Guth
On May 6, 5:52 pm, LIBERATOR wrote:
On May 5, 7:19 am, BradGuth wrote: On May 5, 12:34 am, LIBERATOR wrote: Brad what did you think of that "Disclosure Project"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vyVe-6YdUkorwww.disclosureproject.org Thanks to our popular mainstream media that'll publish and/or exclude whatever they're told by those in charge, and otherwise by that of our "no child left behind" policy, I didn't here a darn thing about it, and Usenet/Groups certainly didn't make much if anything of it. (wonder why) Besides the fact that ETs do exist, and that it's quite likely they have also existed/coexisted on Venus (because that's technically doable), what if anything of this "Disclosure Project" doings had anything whatsoever to do with any composite rigid airship, as intended for cruising Venus? In other words, why did you fail to grasp the meaning or intent of this topic "Venus Airships"? . - Brad Guth I found that it's semi-truthful, they're lying purposefully leaning that "yeah UFOs exist, but they're not by man they're by space monsters". We all know the NAZIs under Hitler invented UFOs, and because Hitler eliminating debt they don't want the culture to be discovered, so they have to use extraterrestrials, or rather "space monsters" to be the originating source of UFOs. We all know NASA has them and they're way beyond the speed of light.www.greyfalcon.us Brad please review this book completely, I bought it before knowing it was online, you can save yourself $20.00http://www.missilegate.com/rfz/index2.htm It's solid fact that the NAZIs invented UFOs. I have few doubts that Hitler's private cache of Zionist NAZI wizards of physics and science most likely did accomplish something UFO disk like as a terrestrial/atmospheric aircraft, perhaps of technology assisted along by some ET encounter. However, interplanetary or much less of any light speed craft is not part of the package deal. I'm also fairly certain that DARPA has obtained access to more than one for-real ET UFO, though doubtful as flyable/operational. .. - Brad Guth |
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Venus Airships / by Brad Guth
mariposas rand mair fheal wrote in
: In article , Bertie the Bunyip wrote: LIBERATOR wrote in news:60fd3bdd-ede0-4c06-8e82- : On May 4, 2:31*pm, BradGuth wrote: Being a little hot, buoyant and having 10% less gravity is actually a darn good thing if you were a Venusian airship, even if limited as to an oven-wrap or KetaSpire PEEK polyetheretherketone and fiber reinforced balloon. *Such fiber reinforced composites do exist, although an outer skin of something in basic titanium shouldn’t be excluded for this rigid airship configuration. For this topic I have an unusual airship to R&D, as intended for a rather toasty dry and calm environment. *Think of this application as a floating city if you like, or consider this one as merely a small or as large as need be robotic probe that can remain efficiently aloft for nearly unlimited time without much energy demand while drifting or even when cruising along at perhaps an average air-speed of less than 10 m/s, as such wouldn’t demand but a few kw for managing a good sized airship. Taking into account the 1.75 kg/m3 by day and perhaps 2.5 kg/m3 of nighttime buoyancy at 50 km is roughly worth twice that of any terrestrial airship application, and for the most part it’s actually fairly calm, kind of inert nice enough and even relatively cool because it’s at such a good deal of altitude away from that geothermal radiating planet, and otherwise operating within the nighttime season, and still situated well enough below the bulk of those otherwise thick and nasty acidic clouds. Because the inert infrastructure of this rigid airship doesn’t change per given altitude means that its hauling capacity or payload is capable of becoming downright impressive, getting much better as one operates at lower altitudes, such as below 35 km by season of day and below 25 km by season of nighttime is where that robust S8/CO2 atmosphere is nearly crystal dry and clear for as far as you can see (depending on terrain, roughly 500 km in all directions). Initially, this is a very rigid composite and robust kind of mostly robotic airship, intended as an extended expedition probe. *It’s somewhat of a conventional blimp like craft, except using a rigid composite hull with a 6:1 L/W ratio instead of the more common terrestrial 5:1. In my way of thinking, it has a rather thick outer composite hull that’s nicely insulative (critical science instrument/components area being insulated by R-100 or better) as obviously acidic proof, not to mention melt proof, not that its failsafe hydrogen gas displacement or that of its vacuum worth of artificial buoyancy need be all that acid proof or even having to be excessively cooled, because the bulk of this airship can be rated for 811 K (1000°F). There are four rather over-sized longitudinal stabilizer fins, used for obvious flight stability, but also utilized for their heat- exchanging functions, and otherwise a pair of midship underbelly landing skids (just in case). Its configuration might incorporate one fully ducted set of large diameter counter-rotating pusher fans, plus four other fully rotatable thrusters (two on either forward/aft side for a total boost of 10% main engine thrust), that collectively can also be utilized as forward/ reverse motion thrusters. The maximum velocity potential of 100 m/s need not be necessary, and certainly not one of those all or nothing considerations, because 10 m/s is more than good enough unless striving to migrate though those acidic clouds in order to cruise essentially above the 75 km nighttime worth of those fast moving clouds (80~85 km by day) . This craft is not going to be your average Hindenburg, much less flammable or otherwise combustible, although intended for efficiently cruising about Venus where size and mass are of little concern when having 64+ kg/m3 worth of buoyancy, and only 90.5% gravity to work with is certainly going to avoid all sorts of inert mass considerations that would have more than grounded the Hindenburg. In addition to certain liquid fuels that can be safely incorporated, there will be a pair of custom RTGs running at more than hot enough to melt aluminum, and a likely Stirling thermal dynamic process of utilizing that heat at roughly 25+% efficiency for all of the onboard systems and main propulsion. Getting rid of 75% worth of RTG heat shouldn’t be all that insurmountable, especially with such a thermally conductive flow of that toasty Venusian atmosphere flowing past, as worthy of *roughly 10% the density of water, in that the closer we cruise *to the geothermally active surface the more dense and thermally conductive becomes the surrounding S8 and CO2 atmosphere. Once again, on behalf of Usenet/Group diehard naysayers, this topic is not about our having to terraform Venus, or that of our having to prance ourselves about in the buff, at least not without our trusty OveGlove jumpsuit and portable CO2--co/o2 plus heat-exchanging unit. Instead, we’re talking mostly about a fully robotic craft that really doesn’t care how hot and nasty it is outside, and may never have to land for the next hundred years, with a future human flight configured version that’s clearly scaled in sufficient volume in order to suit the applications of sustaining human our frail life for extended periods of time while cruising extensively at or below 25 km. Even though Geoffrey Landis wisely publishes most everything of his expertise as science fiction, it’s based entirely upon the regular laws of physics, and for the most part using the best available science. *This doesn’t mean that I’d worship each and every publishe d word of Landis or from others of his kind, although it does fully demonstrate that I’m not the one and only wise enough individual that’s deductively thinking constructively and thus positively about accomplishing those Venus expeditions. Venus exploration papers / Geoffrey A. Landis *http://www.sff.net/people/geoffrey.landis/papers.html Evaluation of Long Duration Flight on Venus / by Anthony J. Colozza and Geoffrey A. Landis *http://gltrs.grc.nasa.gov/reports/20...006-214452.pdf *This paper was for the most part generated long after my having insisted that such a mission via aircraft/airship was technically doable, although this Geoffrey and Anthony version focused mostly on behalf of solar powered and RTG as necessary, whereas such there’s nothing much innovative or all that ground breaking to report, especially since much of their airship application is operated within a terrestrial like environment by way of keeping good altitude. This is not saying that my ideas are of the one and only do-or-die alternatives, as I’m not the least bit opposed to incorporating viable alternatives, or having to share most of the credits with those having contributed their honest expertise. *In other words, I’m not the bad guy here, nor am I interested in hearing from those having ulterior motives or counter intentions of merely topic/author stalking and bashing for all they can muster. . – Brad Guth Brad what did you think of that "Disclosure Project" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vyVe-6YdUk or www.disclosureproject.org Hey Libby! How's thngs at the Bates motel? does this havce anything to do withg the late great bodes sunspot I don't think so, unless Libby's lunacy actually runs in an 11 year cycle. Bertie |
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Venus Airships / by Brad Guth
"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message ... I don't think so, unless Libby's lunacy actually runs in an 11 year cycle. Bertie Finally a thread where you can actually fit in. Aren't you proud for bringing this kind of intellect to RAP? I'm sure I speak for everyone when I express how truly ungrateful we all are. |
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Venus Airships / by Brad Guth
"Maxwell" luv2^fly99@cox.^net wrote in news:YyjUj.31815$KJ1.18900
@newsfe19.lga: "Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message ... I don't think so, unless Libby's lunacy actually runs in an 11 year cycle. Bertie Finally a thread where you can actually fit in. Aren't you proud for bringing this kind of intellect to RAP? I'm sure I speak for everyone when I express how truly ungrateful we all are. Careful there, you'l injure yourself. Bertie |
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Venus Airships / by Brad Guth
On May 6, 10:33*pm, BradGuth wrote:
I have few doubts that Hitler's private cache of Zionist NAZI wizards of physics and science most likely did accomplish something UFO disk like as a terrestrial/atmospheric aircraft, perhaps of technology assisted along by some ET encounter. *However, interplanetary or much less of any light speed craft is not part of the package deal. I'm also fairly certain that DARPA has obtained access to more than one for-real ET UFO, though doubtful as flyable/operational. . - Brad Guth Big-eyed beans from Venus, Don't let anything come between us. Captain Beefheart |
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Venus Airships / by Brad Guth
On May 8, 5:34 am, "Jeff Findley" wrote:
"ah" wrote in message anews.com... BradGuth wrote: You are James Follet, AICMF Stop replying to Brad Guth's posts. At the very least, please learn how to trim the quote of his post, especially if your reply is only one line! Jeff -- A clever person solves a problem. A wise person avoids it. -- Einstein Terrific, in that "ah" and others of his/her silly kind are simply another infowar cop or private minion doing his/her brown-nosed job of protecting their collective status quo, rather than contributing constructively as to the topic at hand. Just think if the likes of Einstein were not Jewish, where would we be, would there have even been a WWII or much less a mutually perpetrated cold-war? It seems there's no end to the incest mutated pile or heap of disinformation and DARPA mindset folks here in Usenet. It's as though Google/NONA have accommodated their very own army of such clowns, spooks and moles from their rusemaster dark side. 99.9% of Usenet seems to be sold on having allowed our government and of its faith-based puppeteers to essentially pillage, plunder and rape humanity, and to otherwise traumatize our frail environment for all it's worth. Apparently 3200% energy inflation in the past 60 years isn't good enough for their New World Order. So, they'd rather topic/author stalk, bash and impose as much banishment as they can muster. Figures, just like in their good old Hitler days, doesn't it. .. - Brad Guth |
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Venus Airships / by Brad Guth
"BradGuth" wrote in message ... On May 7, 7:33 pm, "Hagar" wrote: Why go through all that design trouble, let's see if we can find a copy of the construction plans and specifications of the Hindenburg. PS: Is there lightning on Venus ?? When you graduate into becoming a 5th grader, we'll talk. Until then, keep working on becoming that smart 5th grader. . - Brad Guth Then I'd better stop reading your posts, or I'll never make it. |
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