Bible-beater pilots

You Yanks spruke a lot of ****, isn't there some religious sight you
religious zelots can go on to do battle quoting various phrases from
fairy stories?


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"Matthew P. Cummings" wrote:

On Mon, 24 Nov 2003 11:23:59 -0600, Chris W wrote:

Moses is no longer in effect. Of course if you are Jewish and don't believe in
Jesus Christ then you've got problems.

Dr. Laura is of the Jewish faith, so I think it's wildly humorous. I'd
love to hear somebody call her up with the selling of their daughter bit,
it'd be the funniest thing I've heard all year. In fact, I saved the text
from that web page, it's fantastic.

I have a great deal of respect for the Jewish faith. However, it would be
interesting to hear what they have to say about those passages.


--
Chris W

"They that can give up essential liberty
to obtain a little temporary safety
deserve neither liberty nor safety."
-- Benjamin Franklin, 1759 Historical Review of Pennsylvania

John wrote:

You missed my point - I'm not saying God will give you the answer to
everything you don't understand - I said that God will reveal His nature to
you - that is the essence of real wisdom.


It's apparent that you feel God "has revealed his true nature" to you.
So what happens if
He reveals his true nature to me, and that nature is nothing like what
you experienced?
For many people that answer would be obvious - I must have been fooled
by a false god.
And yet I can't help but wonder, why is it not possible for them to be
wrong?

Rich Lemert

Wdtabor wrote:

Well, would you vote LP if it meant that someone like Ron Paul would be
replaced by someone like Chuck Schummer?

Well, personally, I will vote for *anyone* running against Schumer that has a
chance of winning. With the possible exception of Clinton (either one). Since
I don't live in New York, however, I don't presently have that opportunity.
That also means that I don't have to call him "my" senator.

George Patterson
A man who carries a cat by the tail learns something that can be learned
no other way.

Peter Gottlieb wrote:

I believe many more than you suspect fall into this category. And, in this
area, there are a good many "Republicans" who got fed up with a single issue
in the Democratic camp. What I am saying is that there are a lot of people
close to the fence in both parties.

I think you're right, and the problem is the fact that they now have to toe
the party line to get funding because of the contribution reform laws passed
around 1980. Either these laws should be repealed or the national parties
should be placed under the same restrictions as major corporations. Before they
were passed, it was possible for someone to buy a congresscritter or two, and
there were some that couldn't be bought. Now, you can buy an entire party and
get half of Congress in one whack.

George Patterson
A man who carries a cat by the tail learns something that can
be learned no other way.

On the contrary, the "spirit" was to avoid state-forced religions and
persecution. There is a big difference. Just because you don't like any
reference to god or God does not mean that it is inconsistent with the
authors' intentions.


"John Harlow" wrote in message
...
Where does it say that the Treasury cannot use "In God we trust" on its
money? Where does it say that Congress shall not acknowledge God (with
the
prayer before each session, for instance)?

It is an obvious bias to a specific theology; which goes against the
spirit
of the letter of the constitution. I do not want to see ANY religious
references on government issued documents; their presence is quite
presumptions and offensive.

That ain't even CLOSE to state-sponsored religion.

For real examples of state sponsored or oppressed religions, try Iran, Iraq,
Europe in Middle Ages, Soviet Russia, Cambodia's Kmer Rouge, the Vatican,
etc for examples. The differences might be too subtle for you to see, but
to most folks, the difference is like night and day.


"John Harlow" wrote in message
...
I do not want to see ANY
religious references on government issued documents; their presence
is quite presumptions and offensive.

That is the crux of your argument: You don't *want* to see any reference
to
religion. That's a far different matter than trying to claim that "In
God
we trust", for example, is illegal.


If that's not state sponsored religion I don't know what is. "In God (or
Allah, Buddha, Satan or whoever) we trust" simply has no place on a
government issued document, no matter how many people it makes feel all
warm
and fuzzy.

"John" wrote

We place ourselves at the level of gods, thinking that if we can reason
something out, we can then understand it and thereby bring it under our
control. That is the essence of our "sin" - we think we have a right to
ourselves and to control our destiny.

What a profoundly depressing view of one's life. We have no right to
attempt to control anything about ourselves or our destiny. And if we
attempt to do so via Man's greatest capability, the ability to reason,
then we are sinners. If I believed that I'd probably just go jump off
a bridge right now.

Fortunately, I don't believe any of it. In fact, reading it makes me
want to go out and reread Atlas Shrugged.

Jim Rosinski
N3825Q

jim rosinski wrote:

What a profoundly depressing view of one's life.

My mother believes that we inherit all our abilities and can't do any better
than our ancestors. If one of us gets training in something and turns out to be
good at it, she immediately starts trying to figure out which of our ancestors
we "got that from".

George Patterson
A man who carries a cat by the tail learns something that can be learned
no other way.

On Mon, 24 Nov 2003 20:51:44 -0500, "Jules Beaudoin"
wrote:

Five is five too many.


So speaks the voice of the demagogue!

"The only good Indian is a Dead Indian!"

Rob

--
[You] don't make your kids P.C.-proof by keeping them
ignorant, you do it by helping them learn how to
educate themselves.

-- Orson Scott Card