Busted TFR, what to expect?

In article . com,
"Robert M. Gary" wrote:

Can anyone on this list actually claim to check for TFRs for every
local flight in the pattern?

Yes. Absolutely.

I always get a Wx briefing before every flight, and check NOTAMS along
the route and destination for all XC trips. I teach my students that way also.

Not doing this shows a lack of piloting skilss, sorry but thats the truth.


Robert M. Gary wrote:

Can anyone on this list actually claim to check for TFRs for every
local flight in the pattern? Who would have known the VP was going to
be in Sac? He came stealth.

-Robert

kontiki wrote:
Not doing this shows a lack of piloting skilss, sorry but thats the truth.


It also shows a lack of spelling or typing skills. Sorry, but that's the truth.




--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN

VE

Mortimer Schnerd, RN wrote:
kontiki wrote:

Not doing this shows a lack of piloting skilss, sorry but thats the truth.



It also shows a lack of spelling or typing skills. Sorry, but that's the truth.

Wow, thanks for pointing that out, as you state, my typing skills are
*essential* to the point of the post.

Robert M. Gary wrote:
Can anyone on this list actually claim to check for TFRs for every
local flight in the pattern? Who would have known the VP was going to
be in Sac? He came stealth.


I can't. I'm not likely to call for pattern work. I talk to the FBO manager
though; it seems like he would know. I'm also pretty good about keeping up with
local events in the newspaper. If the VP is coming, I generally know it in
advance.

Now, on cross country flights, I always call. I need weather and I need to
file.

Will this practice eventually bite me on the ass? I suppose it could but I'll
be pretty surprised.



--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN

VE

Robert M. Gary wrote:
Can anyone on this list actually claim to check for TFRs for every
local flight in the pattern? Who would have known the VP was going to
be in Sac? He came stealth.

I get a DUATS briefing before every flight, pattern work or otherwise.

If it's a spur of the moment thing on the way home from work, for
example, and going online isn't feasible, then I call FSS.

-jav

"Robert M. Gary" wrote:

Can anyone on this list actually claim to check for TFRs for every
local flight in the pattern?

Yes.

I call for a briefing before *every* flight I take, whether it be a local
or x/c flight, specifically due to the concern of busting a TFR.

I am aware that there still is a risk that a previously unknown TFR might
even slip past the FSS briefers, but at least there will be a record of my
attempt at obtaining all information.

--
Peter

Robert M. Gary wrote:
Can anyone on this list actually claim to check for TFRs for every
local flight in the pattern? Who would have known the VP was going to
be in Sac? He came stealth.

-Robert

That would be me. Granted I live inside the largest (T)fr area in the
country, but for the most part it does not change. I've just developed
the habit of asking before each flight. Sure it takes a couple of extra
moments but it's worth it.
John

Yes. Plus a briefing.

I also have the Garmin 396 ON! It gives real time TFRs and is convenient and
accurate.

Karl
ATP,CFI, ETC


"Robert M. Gary" wrote in message
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Can anyone on this list actually claim to check for TFRs for every
local flight in the pattern? Who would have known the VP was going to
be in Sac? He came stealth.

-Robert

The 396 ROCKS! (sorry, I cant think of a better possitive explitive)

To see "real time" where the TFR's, real time winds aloft, real time
cloud cover, real time lighting strikes, real time nexrad AND realtime
convective sigmets is a pleasure, especially on a long cross country.

While it doesnt give realtime MOA activity, it does have a quick and
simple meathod of checking the altitudes and normal hours of MOAs and
Restricted areas (just "mouse over" the picture and a pop up tells
you...)

Yes it's expensive, yes the monthly service is expensive ($50/month),
but I would not want to do long VFR cross countries without it!

--
-- ET :-) (student PPL pilot)

"A common mistake people make when trying to design something
completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete
fools."---- Douglas Adams


"karl gruber" wrote in
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Yes. Plus a briefing.

I also have the Garmin 396 ON! It gives real time TFRs and is
convenient and accurate.

Karl
ATP,CFI, ETC


"Robert M. Gary" wrote in message
ups.com...
Can anyone on this list actually claim to check for TFRs for every
local flight in the pattern? Who would have known the VP was going to
be in Sac? He came stealth.

-Robert