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None of the Vc pilots in my old club mentioned this a being a problem either so your guess is good as mine. I have found that having the yaw string further fwd on the canopy makes it (the yaw string) a lot twitchier than if it's further back so that may be leading to an impression of instability. C/g position also makes a difference too and the further back I went, less stablility in all axes was the result. 2 VbT pilots in my club were quite often ground looping but I didn't have that problem at all with the shorter tailboom on mv Va. All towing from the belly hook, go figure?! :-) Colin |
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Ventus C, 15m vs 17.6m
Again : My Ventus cM doesn't do that.
Maybe I have a special one ? |
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I had a Ventus B 16.6 and it never did that. It had the C mod on the root fairing.
CH |
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Good to know. Thanks.
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Fishtailing? You mean yaw?
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On Tuesday, July 23, 2019 at 7:16:21 PM UTC-4, Mike N. wrote:
Just curious, how is the performance of the Ventus C with 17.6m tips installed versus standard 15m with good winglets? I have done some searching and seen some consensus that the 16.6m tips are typically not used much due to the performance degradation at high air speeds. But what about the 17.6 tips? Expected conditions would be soaring in Florida. I also fly Utah, but not thinking I'd need the extra L/D in Utah unless on a weak day. Also are the 17.6 tips available? What would a set of 17.6 tips cost? Thanks, Mike Hi Mike, Where will you be flying in Florida? Flying against Alfonso Eurado (E9) and Benny Flowers in their Ventus C sailplanes, you don't need 17-meter tips. It was an awesome machine at 15M! Benny was always playing with new winglets but Fonzie still had an advantage, (IMHO) with the stock wings. Best Regards Gary ASW27b (SQ) Currently at Seminole Lake |
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Yes neutral stability in yaw. Requires some rudder input to keep going straight on a bumpy day.
Dan On Friday, August 2, 2019 at 8:56:48 PM UTC-4, Glidergeek wrote: Fishtailing? You mean yaw? |
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Fonzie was Fonzie....sorta hard to compare.
Yes, I flew against him a number of times in the NE. Yes, I have heard of some amazing (even for me) outlandings. I miss him, quite a character, but, always willing to help.....him and his better 1/2 and dog..... |
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On Saturday, August 3, 2019 at 4:19:12 PM UTC-4, Charlie M. (UH & 002 owner/pilot) wrote:
Fonzie was Fonzie....sorta hard to compare. Yes, I flew against him a number of times in the NE. Yes, I have heard of some amazing (even for me) outlandings. I miss him, quite a character, but, always willing to help.....him and his better 1/2 and dog..... I had more fun flying with Fonzie at the club in Miami. A short story.... There are many with the Fonz. Late one Sunday afternoon, we were all sitting around the table after a good day of soaring, all telling lies on how bad we beat our buddies in the last thermal. Oh wait, where's Fonzie? Hey, get on the radio and see if he's out there... Late in the day, sun dropping under the horizon. Hey Fonz, are you out there, we barked over the radio? Fonzie comes back, yeah, I'm fifty miles out coming back from flamingo and not sure if I'm going to make it. Flamingo is a complete track over the Florida everglades with coral rocks and alligators... OK, Fonz, as we asked again, can you get home? The typical Fonz answer, "GOT TO" (It was so perfect with that Ecuadorian accent) A short time later, as always, 3 high-speed passes and a beautiful landing in his Ventus C... I miss Alfonso... RIP, E9. Gary |
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Ventus C, 15m vs 17.6m
We are in the process of moving to the North Port area from Utah.
I'll be flying out of TBSS or Seminole. I flew at TBSS for a month and enjoyed it. I have yet to fly at Seminole and am looking forward to it. |
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