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"BUFDRVR" wrote I'm not contending we hit 48 tanks, just pointing out that 1 US Air Force ETAC took pictures of more destroyed vehicles than the Serbs admitted were destroyed. Could they be lying? Of *course* someone is lying. It just depends on which side of the fence you sit to determine *who*. Pete |
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Enemies are numerous on Mother Russia's borders. That's what happens when you invade your neighbors. The bodies of foreign soldiers (mercenaries) are now fertilizing Mother Russia's farms. ....and serving in the Russian military, since Russia's sons no longer see fit to do so. You should be grateful to Mother Russia, it was Mother Russia who defeated the Nazis, otherwise there would be a swastika flying on the top of the White House in Washington, DC, and on the Tower of London. errrrrr, yah. Mind telling me the mechanism for the Nazi invasion of the USA? Think quickly and make up something exciting, because you are losing your audience, boyo. Gordon |
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Chad Irby wrote in message news:q%KJb.109474
Absolutely. Some of the funniest websites I've seen in a long time. http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3a30173716da.htm http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3a3116454bba.htm Since when Free Republic is a funny and conspiracy forum ? Envy ? Magno |
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"Schelkunchik" wrote
It sounds to me you either believe in Santa Claus or LSD. I am not American. Either way, Russian hardware has never performed up to expectations in real battle. Kursk ? The best tanks of WW2 were Soviet and German. Even the French had better tanks than America. Russian tanks were wiped off the battlefield in Iraq (twice). Russian aircraft were wiped out of the sky over Bekaa, Kosovo, Libya and Iraq. Russian anti-aircraft defenses were pushed into the dustbin of history in Syria, Viet Nam, Serbia and Iraq. Really ? In the attack over the independent and Christian nation of Serbia, NATo only destroyed 13 tanks after 8 weeks of bombing. NATO planes bombed hospitals, schools, bridges, houses and TV stations. America bombed TV stations because America loves censorship. "Free Speech" is a joke in America. Censorship in Spanish is "La Censura". http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&i...+la+democracia Funny ? Russian submarines sink by themselves. Just like the USS Thresher and the USS Scorpion. The best the Russians can do is hope for a chance hit on a helicopter with an RPG. Ask the Americans soldiers in Iraq. http://www.iraqwar.ru funny ? Magno III |
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"Peter Skelton" wrote in message ... On 4 Jan 2004 14:59:24 -0800, (Alejandro Magno) wrote: "Schelkunchik" wrote It sounds to me you either believe in Santa Claus or LSD. I am not American. Either way, Russian hardware has never performed up to expectations in real battle. Kursk ? The best tanks of WW2 were Soviet and German. Even the French had better tanks than America. Nonesense. The predominant requirement was for something that could be punched out like confetti. The US understood that better than anyone else. That was true for several otehr weapon stystems too. Peter Skelton Yep. The US actually cut back on Sherman production well before the war was over. Tankers liked it because it was so reliable though. The Pershing was just being introduced as the war ended but it did very well in the few battles it fought. The Panther hardly ever ran reliably. Both the Tigers and Panthers were too few in number to make a real difference anyway. There was no gasoline to run them as well. WWII was Russian armor's sunset. Other than running over a few Hungarians, Czechs and Lithuanians, Russian armor never fared very well. Check out the big armor battles in the first Gulf War. Tank-on-tank, Russian armor was obliterated. |
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You seem to overlook the massive material assistance to the Soviet Union
starting in 1941 which contributed greatly to stemming the German successes, the assistance to Britain staring in 1939 which may well have saved them from conquest, not to mention the actions in North Africa, Italy, in the skies over Europe, etc which greatly reduced Germany's capacity to wage war. It is possible Russia could have won alone, but highly unlikely. And while is is debatable, it seems pretty apparent to me that the United States could have defeated the Soviet Union at the conclusion of WW2 had it needed to, albeit at a very high cost. Jarg "Alejandro Magno" wrote in message om... (BUFDRVR) wrote in message ... You should be grateful to Mother Russia, it was Mother Russia who defeated the Nazis, otherwise there would be a swastika flying on the top of the White House in Washington, DC, and on the Tower of London. I beg all the readers of this to *not* re-open that debate!! There is no conclusive evidence either way and all we get are the resident kooks like our friend here throwing around insults.... There is no debate. Soviet Union won the war in Europe. Stalingrad the largest battle in the history. Kurks the largest tank battle. America entered the war in Europe in summer 1944 when Germany was in constant retreat from the Eastern front since summer 1943. Hitler started to execute Jews in 1942(after the Wannasse conference), America did nothing for the Jews. The only reason of D-Day was to stop uncle Joe Stalin from washing his boots on the Portugal coast. "Clash of Titans" from Amazon.com In other words, D-Day was the first confrontation of the Cold War. Great, so not only are you a Russian/Soviet fanatic, but a racist to boot......... BUFDRVR I am proud of my relatives and ancestors, are you ? Magno |
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