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Old December 19th 06, 03:10 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
TSS7
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Is it the general consensus that Zoom's Aero News Network is not
completely trustworthy? It would seem he is just re-posting news he
gets from some source. But I wonder if he doesn't "doctor up" the
articles himself. If he's doing that, then they should throw him off
the internet. I wonder if there is proof of him doing just that??
I've read his website, but I get the feeling he's censoring the news.
If so, he probably needs the Aero News Network as a sounding board to
keep his ability to post news in some fashion the way he wants it
posted. I wonder is there is another site like his that posts news
that isn't under an influence of someone of his character?
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Old December 19th 06, 03:35 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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Are you always so prone to understatements? To say that the Aero News
Network is not completely trustworthy is the understatement of the
century. About the only thing you can really trust are the many
stories copied from news releases from other sources which are rarely
if ever credited to the source as is done in any real news source.
ANN, like his defunct printed Aviation Enquirer are little more than
aviation trash tabloids worth exactly what you pay for them...nothing.
I won't claim that to be the "general consensus" but will wager few
beyond "Yawn" will find substantial reason do disagree.




TSS7 wrote:
Is it the general consensus that Zoom's Aero News Network is not
completely trustworthy? It would seem he is just re-posting news he
gets from some source. But I wonder if he doesn't "doctor up" the
articles himself. If he's doing that, then they should throw him off
the internet. I wonder if there is proof of him doing just that??
I've read his website, but I get the feeling he's censoring the news.
If so, he probably needs the Aero News Network as a sounding board to
keep his ability to post news in some fashion the way he wants it
posted. I wonder is there is another site like his that posts news
that isn't under an influence of someone of his character?


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Old December 19th 06, 03:36 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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"TSS7" wrote in message
...
Is it the general consensus that Zoom's Aero News Network is not
completely trustworthy? It would seem he is just re-posting news he


It's pretty clear that Campbell is a sleazeball of the first order but there
are other people involved in ANN also. I doubt that everything is done or
massaged by him. Most of the stuff appears to be simply reposting of press
releases and newswire stuff, simply enough to keep the front page fresh
enough to keep people having a peek. It's the hit numbers that allow the
site to lure advertisers. The site appears mostly innocuous enough, but it
doesn't offer much if anything fresh. The columns are all old and poor, lots
of promises for the future that I've seen for a long time. I've stopped
looking for the most part. There are other, better sources for real news.

Avweb is pretty good. Airwise has constant updates. There's lot's out there.


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Old December 19th 06, 03:41 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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In a previous article, said:
gets from some source. But I wonder if he doesn't "doctor up" the
articles himself. If he's doing that, then they should throw him off
the internet. I wonder if there is proof of him doing just that??


"throw him off the internet"? What the **** are you talking about? The
cure for bad speech is good speech, not censorship.

Fox News has a web site too.

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Old December 19th 06, 07:29 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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("Paul Tomblin" wrote)
"throw him off the internet"? What the #$%* are you talking about? The
cure for bad speech is good speech, not censorship.

Fox News has a web site too.



So does CBS, ABC, ......and CNN :-)


Montblack


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Old December 19th 06, 11:15 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
TSS7
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On Tue, 19 Dec 2006 13:29:19 -0600, "Montblack"
wrote:

("Paul Tomblin" wrote)
"throw him off the internet"? What the #$%* are you talking about? The
cure for bad speech is good speech, not censorship.

Fox News has a web site too.



So does CBS, ABC, ......and CNN :-)


Montblack



Well yes, but I want exclusive aviation news. The networks seem to
grab the bigger stories, and have little interest in sport aviation.
I'm going to check out avweb, and see if they have similar types of
news. I suspect that ANN posts mostly news off the wire without
massaging it. But the problem is, the reader would have no way of
knowing which stories have been doctored up. I used to suscribe to the
US Aviator back in the 80's and it was a good magazine. Somewhere
along the way, Zoomer seemed to slip off beaten path and went down the
wrong one. But it's not unusual for insanity to manifest itself later
in life. One of the guys that used to fly with me on the airline used
to skydive with Zoom. And he said he was normal back then, and that
was back in either the late seventies or early eighties. But then
again, how normal is anyone who skydives :-)
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Old December 20th 06, 01:18 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
ChuckSlusarczyk
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In article , Paul Tomblin says...

You missed the point. Montblack and I were pointing out that much, much
bigger organizations that massage the news to fit their twisted world
views are posting on the internet every day.



....and if your the object of the twisted news who knows but you? That's the
advantage zoom had originally when he still had the magazine. He wrote what he
wanted and if you wrote a letter to the editor giving your side it was never
printed. At best he would cherry pick a statement that appeared to support his
position. Been there done that

Chuck S RAH-14/1 ret

"credibility it was always about credibility".....chuck s

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Old December 20th 06, 05:32 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
TSS7
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On Tue, 19 Dec 2006 23:40:51 +0000 (UTC),
(Paul Tomblin) wrote:

In a previous article, said:
On Tue, 19 Dec 2006 13:29:19 -0600, "Montblack"
wrote:
("Paul Tomblin" wrote)
"throw him off the internet"? What the #$%* are you talking about? The
cure for bad speech is good speech, not censorship.

Fox News has a web site too.
So does CBS, ABC, ......and CNN :-)

Well yes, but I want exclusive aviation news. The networks seem to


You missed the point. Montblack and I were pointing out that much, much
bigger organizations that massage the news to fit their twisted world
views are posting on the internet every day.

http://www.newshounds.us/2006/11/15/..._news_memo.php



Oh, I absolutely agree with that. The one issue that really has me
steamed is that issue in the Jacksonville area that bans building a
hombuilt in your own garage. That's one that needs to be overturned.
If other cities get wind of it, it could spread. If a builder was in a
shop that was not visible from the outside, it would be an
unenforceable rule. But not every builder has that setup.
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Old December 20th 06, 04:35 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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....snip

One of the guys that used to fly with me on the airline used
to skydive with Zoom. And he said he was normal back then, and that
was back in either the late seventies or early eighties. But then
again, how normal is anyone who skydives :-)


....in the late 70s (1979, to be exact) he was being carted off from
Tulsa in a butterfly net by his daddy because he was caught
impersonating a doctor (using his grandfather's medical bag, white coat
and I.D.) and scheduling his girlfriend for a hysterectomy. here's a
few graphs of the Tulsa Tribune article:

Tulsa Tribune

Jan 4, 1979
Page 1A
" Doctor No
All 'physician' lacked was a license
By STEVE WARD

Dashing young Dr. James Campbell had a standing offer with co-workers
and
neighbors at his apartment complex: Call him if they needed a doctor.
They
called often. He came to the rescue of a woman having a heart attack,
gave
first aid to a girl with a bad cut on her forehead, treated an next
door
neighbor's baby who had a cold and was planning to perform surgery on
his
girlfriend.

Everyone liked Dr. Campbell. He told them he was a man of the world -
he
was working with the CIA, was a Vietnam veteran, a daredevil who once
tried
to parachute off the world trade center in New York City and was
licensed
to fly commercial jets. The only thing wrong was that Dr. Campbell,
who
practiced in Tulsa for four months, was not a doctor.

Campbell was described by his father as being a "schizophrenic" who has
tried to convince even his parents that he is a doctor, even though he
never has attended medical school, officers said. Yet he functioned in
a
Tulsa suburb as a doctor, although he apparently never performed
surgery,
until last week. Everyone who came in contact with him until recent
weeks
was impressed."

now, i don't know what, exactly, you use as a benchmark for normal, but
in this case the manifestations of, shall we say, abnormality showed up
rather early in life.

al

 




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