Z's network?

Orval Fairbairn wrote:
In article ,
"Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATcox.net wrote:

Nahhh, Juan just likes stirring the pot. If you recall, a number of years
back
he defended Paul Moller and the Moller Skycar the same way he talks about
Zoom.
ISTR others have mentioned that he does the same kinds of things in other
newsgroups.

Ron Wanttaja

One of the "prototypes" was for sale not long ago on E-Bay and someone
jokingly asked in the group if the tower and tether game with the prototype.
I said, "I don't know let's ask." And I did. Here was the answer.

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No, it does not come with the tether and the tower. We
have flown it without the tether but only rarely. It has flown only within
our propery, which is about 4 acres.

Translation: "It scared the hell out of us so much that we decided to
park it and offer it on ebay,'as is'.

ChuckSlusarczyk wrote:
In article , J.Kahn says...
article:
Tulsa Tribune

Jan 4, 1979
Page 1A
" Doctor No
All 'physician' lacked was a license
By STEVE WARD
Can the original article be posted somehow? The online Tulsa Tribune
archive only goes back to '89.


Go to www.ousterhout.net/zoom/tulsa.html and you'll see the entire article with
a picture of the dashing young Dr :-)

See ya

Chuck S
"credibility it was always about credibility"....chuck s

Thanks Chuck

You run into people with narcissistic personality disorder all the time
in a big corporation, in middle and senior management levels, because
they are such superb actors and manipulators. I used to work for one.
Even though I knew he hated my guts and tried to get me fired for
challenging him in a meeting, when he left the department and came
around for goodbyes he turned on the charm and left me thinking "gee,
what a nice guy".

One hallmark of these people is you can't get them mad by insulting
them, because other people are just objects and their opinions mean
nothing. The only thing that gets them angry is doing something to get
in their way somehow, like obstructing a goal. Then the mask comes off
and the rage starts. This guy was famous for exploding at meetings when
triggered by some kind of bad news.


Cheers

John

Paul Tomblin wrote:


"throw him off the internet"? What the **** are you talking about? The
cure for bad speech is good speech, not censorship.

Just FYI ~ the Zoom is a documented liar. It's not about
censorship...it's about a scumbag who lies to his readers, defrauds
advertisers, claims to be a Purple Heart Vietnam Veteran but didn't
step one inch "In Country," cannot back up his flying claims with
logbooks, has impersonated a 747 pilot for Japan Air Lines, has
impersonated a doctor, has prescribed medicine without a license,
attempted an unauthorized parachute jump from the World Trade Center
and resisisted arrest when Law Enforcement tried to stop him, had
committed perjury, has flown dangeriously, has had his medical pulled
for personality disorders and Schizophrenia, has stalked his ex-wife
and ex-fiance, has stalked employees and fellow workers he has had
gripes with, called Social Services on people he had disagreements with
and alleged child abuse, is alleged to have turned an enemy in to the
Secret Service with a false claim of a Threat against the life of the
President; and on and on and on...thirty years plus of his crap.

No way is this censorship. This is about bringing a criminal to
justice and halting his negative influence over others, including the
young. This is about halting a "Cowboy" Aviator who wipes his ass with
the Law, the FARs and anyone he chooses on the spur of the moment.

Also, if he has nothing original to offer and only rehashes Press
Releases that others are publishing anyway, what has been
censored...what has been lost...other than a piece of filth who was of
a human life.

Juan Jimenez wrote:


That sentence describes you much better than him. Other difference is Jim
follows up on what he says he will do. You just run at the mouth, and that's
it. All bark, no bite.

Hey Traitor!

You back!?

Imagine a U.S. Marine supporting a lying S.O.B. who claims to be a
Purple Heart Vietnam Veteran...that's Juan Jimenez, for you!

The Jane Fonda of the U.S. Marines...

Juan Jimenez wrote:

chuckle Spare me the sob story, putz.


Hanoi Juan spews again...

Anthony W wrote:

At worst he will have to
spend some time in a loony bin. However any time he's in the loony bin
is time he isn't bothering anyone (on the outside...)

This also begs the question, it yuan crazy too?

Tony


Zoom is motivated by greed and gloryhounding. It's the greed angle
that will trip him up and get him launched into a Federal Penitentiary.
The Judge will see right through the Schizo act and beyond that, Jimbo
the Rocket Clown has had over thirty years to get effective help and
hasn't.

Yawn is also driven by personal profit and gloryhounding of his own.
Why else would a U.S. Marine sell out Vietnam Veterans by supporting a
Poser claiming to be one, even wounded in action, when he never stepped
foot "in country." Well, both are liars, and Aesop said:

"Birds of a Feather Flock Together." ****birds in particular.

Juan is filth...moreso than Campbell. Just the same, flush 'em both
down the same toilet. Yellow cowards that they are! Liars that they
are.

They have no business in Aviation, Journalism, or outside of a Prison
loose on a Free Society which they contribute nothing to, but rather,
take volumes away from.

Juan Jimenez wrote:

LMAO! Censoring the news???? LOL! I suppose you believe the story your mama
told you that every news media outlet in the US prints all the news it gets
and never once edits anything.

Then you admit censorship and withholding information that violates the
First Amendment and the Public's right to know...

....not surprising, coming from a traitor.

In article , J.Kahn says...

One hallmark of these people is you can't get them mad by insulting
them, because other people are just objects and their opinions mean
nothing. The only thing that gets them angry is doing something to get
in their way somehow, like obstructing a goal. Then the mask comes off
and the rage starts. This guy was famous for exploding at meetings when
triggered by some kind of bad news.

Your right zoom can be a charmer you also right in that insulting them really
doesn't bother them unless it's as you say getting in the way of a goal.He has
no sense of responsibility for any of his actions nor any compassion for those
he's harmed. Somewhere there was a posting stating all the medical reasons for
what he does but I don't remember where.

Merry Christmas

Chuck S RAH-14/1 ret

In a previous article, "DABEAR" said:
Paul Tomblin wrote:


"throw him off the internet"? What the **** are you talking about? The
cure for bad speech is good speech, not censorship.

Just FYI ~ the Zoom is a documented liar. It's not about
censorship...it's about a scumbag who lies to his readers, defrauds

There is no law against lying on the internet. There is no law against
being a scumbag on the internet. If there were, there would be a lot
fewer sites.

Prosecute or sue him for the things he does which are against the law
(there appear to be many), but don't think you get him "thrown off the
internet".

--
Paul Tomblin http://blog.xcski.com/
My group's mission statement - 'You want *what* ? By *WHEN* ?'
-- Simon Burr

Juan Jimenez wrote:
..

IQ's are dropping like rocks around here.

Only since you're arrival...coincidence...I highly doubt it!

Why don't you get lost, Traitor Boy!?

You're screwing with our curve!

Not to mention, you're stinking up the Newsgroup...