Way off topic, but it has do to with the French

Provide that, and you can lead Frenchmen to Moscow.

Exactly. And it is precisely because the French have fallen so far that
they are now thought of so poorly.

Combine that with their inexplicable arrogance in the face of irrelevance,
and you have comic fodder.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

On Mar 5, 12:13 pm, "Jay Honeck" wrote:
Provide that, and you can lead Frenchmen to Moscow.

Exactly. And it is precisely because the French have fallen so far that
they are now thought of so poorly.

Combine that with their inexplicable arrogance in the face of irrelevance,
and you have comic fodder.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

We have comic fodder right here, and it's from Iowa, not France.

Who "thinks of them so poorly"?

Specifics really mess up broad generalizations, don't they?

Dan

Steven P. McNicoll wrote:
"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
news:LOyzj.9517$TT4.6235@attbi_s22...
True, the Italians were pathetically clumsy in WWII. It's interesting to
note that despite this performance there are few in America who make
"Italian jokes" the way we poke fun at the French.


Perhaps because the Italians don't have the arrogance of the French.

Or they don't compete with Americans in arrogance, to put it another way...

On Mar 5, 11:13*am, "Jay Honeck" wrote:
Provide that, and you can lead Frenchmen to Moscow.

Exactly. *And it is precisely because the French have fallen so far that
they are now thought of so poorly.

Combine that with their inexplicable arrogance in the face of irrelevance,
and you have comic fodder.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

I've also heard some pretty good Iowa jokes. Here's a sampling:

Q: What's considered a solid hour's reading in Iowa?

A: The back of a cereal box.


Did you hear that Ford is recalling all vehicles sold in Iowa? They
have to change the dimmer switch back to the floor like it used to be
due to all the Iowans losing control of their cars when their foot
gets caught in the steering wheel.


Q: Why do they bring a bag of manure to a wedding in Iowa?

A: It keeps the flies off the bride!

I'm not sure why people make fun of Iowa that way, but I am sure there
must be very good reasons Iowans deserve it. Just like with the
French!

Phil

On Mar 5, 12:13 pm, "Jay Honeck" wrote:
Provide that, and you can lead Frenchmen to Moscow.

Exactly. And it is precisely because the French have fallen so far that
they are now thought of so poorly.

Combine that with their inexplicable arrogance in the face of irrelevance,
and you have comic fodder.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

And what was France's contribution during WW1?

On Mar 5, 12:34 pm, Rich Ahrens wrote:

Or they don't compete with Americans in arrogance, to put it another way...

Don't confuse "arrogance" with "superiority"


Dan

Dan wrote:
On Mar 5, 12:34 pm, Rich Ahrens wrote:
Or they don't compete with Americans in arrogance, to put it another way...

Don't confuse "arrogance" with "superiority"

I rest my case.

Jay Honeck schrieb:
Provide that, and you can lead Frenchmen to Moscow.

Exactly. And it is precisely because the French have fallen so far that
they are now thought of so poorly.

Combine that with their inexplicable arrogance in the face of irrelevance,
and you have comic fodder.

and your knowledge about the French comes from where? From your minor in
history? Have you ever been outside your country?

#m

On Feb 28, 2:18 pm, Jim Logajan wrote:
Phil J wrote:
Germany's use
of advanced technology and advanced tactics put them ahead of every
other country on the planet at that time.

Only part of that is true. At the start of the war German tanks were
generally regarded as inferior to their contemporaries. It was generally
superior tactics and training that won their battles. In fact at the outset
of the invasion of Russia, the Russian T-34 was superior in pretty much
every way to anything the Germans had. (I wasted part of my youth playing
board wargames such as Avalon Hill's "PanzerBlitz" and learned a bit about
the equipment and tactics of the era.)

Refs:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_...ki/Panzerblitz

Not exactly.

The T-34 was produced en masse, had a weak main gun, and had very
little room inside for the crew. German tanks were better made and
better gunned.

But -- all Wermacht maintenance was depot level -- throw a rod? Send
the whole tank back to the fatherland by rail.

The US forward deployed maintenance philosophy helped defeat the far
superior German armor. They would blast four of our tanks -- the next
day three would reappear.

The Soviet maintenance and refit was not as efficient, but the sheer
numbers of T-34s helped swing the tide.

The main innovation that German armored units employed that helped
facilitate blitzkrieg was small unit communications (radios). The
French had better (on paper) tanks then the PKZW Mk IV, but the French
employed their tanks as infantry support while the Germans used
penetrate and exploit tactics.

The German Tiger tank was not exceeded in potential by Allied armor
until the deployment of the M-1 Abrams.

Now *that's* a tank.

Dan
(retired US Army Armor Officer)

On Mar 5, 3:58 pm, Rich Ahrens wrote:
Dan wrote:
On Mar 5, 12:34 pm, Rich Ahrens wrote:
Or they don't compete with Americans in arrogance, to put it another way...

Don't confuse "arrogance" with "superiority"

I rest my case.

You like that?

I thought that would elicit a response.



Catch and release.