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"BTIZ" wrote in message news:Ht2Lg.2558$8J2.2200@fed1read11... If you are going to get paid for being a professional, you should dress like a professional. When I worked ATC, it was not the white shirt and narrow tie, but dress slacks "Dockers" and sport shirts or collared golf shirts with pocket were expected with decent shoes. You never knew when there would be a tour coming through, Boy Scouts, Rotary Club, Local Pilots on a "Raincheck" program, or maybe even the US Senator or House Rep. Perception is the whole thing, look like a bum and people will think you work like a bum. UPS delivery drivers wear shorts. They look professional. |
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Steven P. McNicoll wrote:
snip UPS delivery drivers wear shorts. They look professional. You think? I don't. |
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"Emily" wrote in message . .. I saw it at BMI about four years ago. I've never seen it. I don't think it was a problem. But if it had been, the FAA could simply have banned cut-offs and flip-flops. |
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"Jose" wrote in message om... I suspect also that the ones who leave (other than for retirement) would be the ones who can easily find work elsewhere. ATC would be left with... Absolutely. It's also worth noting that those that are eligible to retire today are the most experienced controllers. They are those that became controllers before standards were lowered. |
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"BTIZ" wrote in message news:_x2Lg.2559$8J2.647@fed1read11... I'm betting that dress codes are in the employee handbook. Now the management have decided to enforce it. How much are you willing to wager? |
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"Emily" wrote in message . .. You think? I don't. I wouldn't have written it if I didn't. |
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"Larry Dighera" wrote in message ... On 4 Sep 2006 10:24:51 -0700, wrote in . com: It's ridiculous that an employer thinks they can arbitrarily change the terms of employment without consulting the employees. Absurd! You should work for an auto company. Over the past 20 or so years white colar workers have lost COLA, vacation time, etc. Personally, I believe auto workers were paid far in excess of the skill they possessed. (How long did an auto worker have to attend training before being considered skilled enough to demand top pay?) Snip Larry, FWIW, my late father was a 32-year veteran of GMs white collar world... What you say is true so far as the blue collar rank and file UAW memebers were/are concerned. But, while the US automakers were busy bending over backwards to make the people on the assembly lines happy, they were balancing the equation by making the lower and middle management white collar positions take it in the shorts. Jay B |
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"Stefan" wrote in message ... Jay Honeck schrieb: But, in truth, it's not an issue of whether dressing up (or down) is a good idea -- it's the fact that the union seems to think they have the right to dress however they please. I think that, too. If an employer can't even set a dress code without inciting a union grievance, what does that say about the attitude of their employees? I wouldn't allow my empoyer to dictate how I have to dress, either. Stefan Your employer would have every right to teminate your employment if a dress was established and you did not comply. |
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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message nk.net... "Jay Honeck" wrote in message oups.com... The fact that tours can be arranged argues for them to not look like bums. I sometimes get deliveries from UPS, the drivers wear shorts in the summer. They don't look like bums to me. Why do you think they do? Have you ever seen actual bums wearing shorts? UPS has an extremely strict dress code. Wanna guess what happens to drivers that don't comply? |
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"Dave Stadt" wrote in message ... UPS has an extremely strict dress code. Wanna guess what happens to drivers that don't comply? I'd expect they'd be fired. |
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