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Old January 4th 08, 06:14 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Its not clear what the marginal cost of GA is in the US. Arguably it
is zero or negligible because all the infrastructure in place (control
towers, FSS etc) are there to serve the airlines and GA aircraft can
be refused many ATC services like flight following, access to class B
etc if the workload is too high. In other words, if all the GA traffic
in the US were to disappear overnight, the costs of running airports,
control towers etc is going to remain almost the same. I am not aware
of free services that exist solely for GA. Whatever costs are incurred
by GA are covered in part by a fuel surcharge.
There are landing fees for most passenger aircraft at larger airports.
Landing fees do not exist at smaller airports for GA traffic.


No, I'm talking about airports only. If American airports don't ask for
landing fees _and_ don't get subsidies, what the hell do they make
money from? Their core business, namely offering a place where aircraft
can land and take off, can't be it, cause it's free. They might make
money from selling petrol (if they sell any), or from an associated
restaurant, or from hangar rents. But you can do the same running a
petrol station for cars, with a much lower investment, so it's not
going to be very attractive businesswhise.

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Old January 4th 08, 06:16 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Ron Natalie" wrote in message
m...
Wolfgang Schwanke wrote:
Bob Noel wrote in
:
In article ,
Dallas wrote:

As much as we hate government involvement in general, I think it
would be fair to say that the U.S. subsides GA to encourage it's existence.
What subsidies?


What revenues do they get? Do they run at a loss?

There isn't a single mode of transportation: airline, GA, rail, bus,
personal auto, in this country (and most) that doesn't operate with
some form of massive government subsidy.


It even extends down to bicycling and hiking trails and the sidewalk in front of your
house, for that matter. Infrastructure is one of those things that can't generally be
built, maintained, and paid for by individuals or private industry. So the political
battles are not over "whether to" but "who" and "what" and "how much".



  #154  
Old January 5th 08, 12:39 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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In article ,
Wolfgang Schwanke wrote:

No, I'm talking about airports only. If American airports don't ask for
landing fees _and_ don't get subsidies, what the hell do they make
money from?


Ma$$port charges $120/month for a lousy tie-down. T-hangers are
now more than $600/month.

Ma$$port also has Transient parking fees, landing fees, and grabs
2% of gross revenues for the business dumb enough to stay at KBED.

If Ma$$port is losing money at KBED they only need to look in
the mirror for the cause.

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(goodness, please trim replies!!!)

 




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