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FAI no longer recognizing 1000km triangle speed???



 
 
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Old May 14th 21, 12:14 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Default FAI no longer recognizing 1000km triangle speed???

From the latest SC3:

b. Triangle Speed Course as in 3.1.5g with distances of 100, 300, 500, 750, 1250 km, or greater multiples of 500 km. A record may be claimed for the declared course and any shorter triangle in compliance with the applicable triangle geometry requirements in 3.1.8.

They skip 1000, 1500, 2000, etc...

5Z
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Old May 14th 21, 01:53 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Default FAI no longer recognizing 1000km triangle speed???

On Thursday, 13 May 2021 at 17:14:16 UTC-6, 5Z wrote:
From the latest SC3:

b. Triangle Speed Course as in 3.1.5g with distances of 100, 300, 500, 750, 1250 km, or greater multiples of 500 km. A record may be claimed for the declared course and any shorter triangle in compliance with the applicable triangle geometry requirements in 3.1.8.

They skip 1000, 1500, 2000, etc...

5Z

Do you have a link to the latest SC3? Did not see a new one last week.
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Old May 14th 21, 02:27 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Default FAI no longer recognizing 1000km triangle speed???

On Thursday, May 13, 2021 at 5:53:28 PM UTC-7, Ron Gleason wrote:
Do you have a link to the latest SC3? Did not see a new one last week.


https://www.fai.org/igc-documents
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Old May 14th 21, 09:51 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Default FAI no longer recognizing 1000km triangle speed???

On 14/05/2021 01:53, Ron Gleason wrote:
On Thursday, 13 May 2021 at 17:14:16 UTC-6, 5Z wrote:
From the latest SC3:

b. Triangle Speed Course as in 3.1.5g with distances of 100, 300, 500, 750, 1250 km, or greater multiples of 500 km. A record may be claimed for the declared course and any shorter triangle in compliance with the applicable triangle geometry requirements in 3.1.8.

They skip 1000, 1500, 2000, etc...

5Z

Do you have a link to the latest SC3? Did not see a new one last week.

That is not new. It was in the 2019 Edition of SC3.
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Old May 14th 21, 12:37 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Default FAI no longer recognizing 1000km triangle speed???

On Friday, 14 May 2021 at 00:14:16 UTC+1, 5Z wrote:
b. Triangle Speed Course as in 3.1.5g with distances of 100, 300, 500, 750, 1250 km, or greater multiples of 500 km. A record may be claimed for the declared course and any shorter triangle in compliance with the applicable triangle geometry requirements in 3.1.8.
They skip 1000, 1500, 2000, etc...


As written that excludes 1000km (which seems odd), but allows 1500, 2000, 2500, etc..
Perhaps it was a slip when they added 1250km?
J.
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Old May 14th 21, 12:53 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Default FAI no longer recognizing 1000km triangle speed???

On 14/05/2021 12:37, wrote:
On Friday, 14 May 2021 at 00:14:16 UTC+1, 5Z wrote:
b. Triangle Speed Course as in 3.1.5g with distances of 100, 300, 500, 750, 1250 km, or greater multiples of 500 km. A record may be claimed for the declared course and any shorter triangle in compliance with the applicable triangle geometry requirements in 3.1.8.
They skip 1000, 1500, 2000, etc...


As written that excludes 1000km (which seems odd), but allows 1500, 2000, 2500, etc..
Perhaps it was a slip when they added 1250km?
J.

My thoughts exactly.
It also seems odd to have different distances for O&R and Triangles.
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Old May 14th 21, 02:55 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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it should be clear from the text , MULTIPLES OF 500KM ; 1000KM is two times 500km, 1500KM is three times 500km , 2000km is four times 500 km etc , so these distances are included !
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Old May 14th 21, 03:09 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Friday, 14 May 2021 at 14:55:44 UTC+1, Muttley wrote:
it should be clear from the text , MULTIPLES OF 500KM ; 1000KM is two times 500km, 1500KM is three times 500km , 2000km is four times 500 km etc , so these distances are included !

Nope! It IS clear from the text: "... 1250 km, or GREATER multiples of 500 km".
When I last checked, 1000km was not greater than 1250km - so it is excluded. (For 1500km and upwards we're all agreed.)
Perhaps not what they intended, but it IS what is written!
As Tim noted, that is at odds with the O&R rules. You may wish to agitate for change!
J.
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Old May 14th 21, 06:15 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Friday, May 14, 2021 at 3:09:36 PM UTC+1, wrote:
On Friday, 14 May 2021 at 14:55:44 UTC+1, Muttley wrote:
it should be clear from the text , MULTIPLES OF 500KM ; 1000KM is two times 500km, 1500KM is three times 500km , 2000km is four times 500 km etc , so these distances are included !

Nope! It IS clear from the text: "... 1250 km, or GREATER multiples of 500 km".
When I last checked, 1000km was not greater than 1250km - so it is excluded. (For 1500km and upwards we're all agreed.)
Perhaps not what they intended, but it IS what is written!
As Tim noted, that is at odds with the O&R rules. You may wish to agitate for change!
J.

I just believe it is not very good wording and therefore open to interpretation;
May be " ....1250km, and multiples of 500km " would be more clear (multiples automatically means more than 1 x 500 km)??
Will be happy to send this information to the Sporting Code Committee Chairman if you agree!
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Old May 14th 21, 06:57 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Friday, 14 May 2021 at 18:15:29 UTC+1, Muttley wrote:
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I just believe it is not very good wording and therefore open to interpretation;
May be " ....1250km, and multiples of 500km " would be more clear (multiples automatically means more than 1 x 500 km)??
Will be happy to send this information to the Sporting Code Committee Chairman if you agree!


I entirely agree that it's not the best of wording, whatever they meant!
May I suggest, in context, "...750, any multiple of 500, and 1250 km." - unless they _meant_ to exclude 1000km. This would remove the possible doubts, in some minds, raised by an out-of-sequence list.
May I also say that I have no authority here (or elsewhere!), I merely offer advice!
J.
 




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