Lathe, drillpress, milling machine available, but.....

The local EAA chapter has a lathe, drillpress, milling machine, etc
set up in the back of the chapter house. As far as I can tell, the
lathe hasn't been used in a while. When I asked, someone rightly
replied they were concerned someone might hurt themselves using the
lathe. Having had some training with a lathe, I recognize that danger,
but there should be a way for the Chapter to feel comfortable
allowing use of the lathe. A training program would be ideal

Has anyone else been faced with this situation and how did it get
solved? - MIke

On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 06:26:31 -0500, Michael Horowitz
wrote:

The local EAA chapter has a lathe, drillpress, milling machine, etc
set up in the back of the chapter house. As far as I can tell, the
lathe hasn't been used in a while. When I asked, someone rightly
replied they were concerned someone might hurt themselves using the
lathe. Having had some training with a lathe, I recognize that danger,
but there should be a way for the Chapter to feel comfortable
allowing use of the lathe. A training program would be ideal

Has anyone else been faced with this situation and how did it get
solved? - MIke

You might buy several hockey helmets with face shields, to be used by
nervous club members when operating the drill press and milling
machine. Trade the helmets for the lathe, and take it home for safe
disposal before it can maim or kill anybody.

Wayne

On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 15:12:17 GMT, wmbjk
wrote:

On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 06:26:31 -0500, Michael Horowitz
wrote:

The local EAA chapter has a lathe, drillpress, milling machine, etc
set up in the back of the chapter house. As far as I can tell, the
lathe hasn't been used in a while. When I asked, someone rightly
replied they were concerned someone might hurt themselves using the
lathe. Having had some training with a lathe, I recognize that danger,
but there should be a way for the Chapter to feel comfortable
allowing use of the lathe. A training program would be ideal

Has anyone else been faced with this situation and how did it get
solved? - MIke

You might buy several hockey helmets with face shields, to be used by
nervous club members when operating the drill press and milling
machine. Trade the helmets for the lathe, and take it home for safe
disposal before it can maim or kill anybody.

Wayne

Wayne - that went WAY over my head! - Mike

Michael Horowitz wrote:

On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 15:12:17 GMT, wmbjk
wrote:


On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 06:26:31 -0500, Michael Horowitz
wrote:


The local EAA chapter has a lathe, drillpress, milling machine, etc
set up in the back of the chapter house. As far as I can tell, the
lathe hasn't been used in a while. When I asked, someone rightly
replied they were concerned someone might hurt themselves using the
lathe. Having had some training with a lathe, I recognize that danger,
but there should be a way for the Chapter to feel comfortable
allowing use of the lathe. A training program would be ideal

Has anyone else been faced with this situation and how did it get
solved? - MIke

You might buy several hockey helmets with face shields, to be used by
nervous club members when operating the drill press and milling
machine. Trade the helmets for the lathe, and take it home for safe
disposal before it can maim or kill anybody.

Wayne


Wayne - that went WAY over my head! - Mike

A little tongue-in-cheek suggestion for a way to remove the danger of
legal liability for the chapter...

Win-Win if they should accept such a generous offer!

Richard

If they cannot use a lathe safely, they should not be operating an airplane,
or possibly even driving a car. Forbid anyone from using the lathe unless
they have verifiable training and use manufacturer recommended safeguards.

There are risks inherent in almost anything. People are hurt using
screwdrivers, electric drills, power saws and shears.

If it still is a concern, limit the use to adults and then have them sign an
appropriate release. In addition, you probably should already have some
liability insurance. The dangers from a lathe are much less than a rotating
propeller. I suspect more injuries occur using a drill press than a lathe.

Colin

"COLIN LAMB" wrote in message
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If it still is a concern, limit the use to adults and then have them sign
an appropriate release. In addition, you probably should already have
some liability insurance. The dangers from a lathe are much less than a
rotating propeller. I suspect more injuries occur using a drill press
than a lathe.

Colin

Speaking as an old Jr. High Shop teacher, I suspect you are right about the
drill press.
Especially when attempting to drill sheet metal. If not securely retained
sheet metal instantaneously becomes a rotating blade when the bit grabs, as
it often does. Some of my
60s longhairs also learned they needed to restrain their flowing locks when
working near
rotating machinery. I had to constantly preach on that point. No total
scalpings ever occurred, but it was a constant worry and a few small
floating locks were removed.

Harold
KD5SAK

kd5sak wrote:
"COLIN LAMB" wrote in message
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If it still is a concern, limit the use to adults and then have them sign
an appropriate release. In addition, you probably should already have
some liability insurance. The dangers from a lathe are much less than a
rotating propeller. I suspect more injuries occur using a drill press
than a lathe.

Colin

Speaking as an old Jr. High Shop teacher, I suspect you are right about the
drill press.
Especially when attempting to drill sheet metal. If not securely retained
sheet metal instantaneously becomes a rotating blade when the bit grabs, as
it often does. Some of my
60s longhairs also learned they needed to restrain their flowing locks when
working near
rotating machinery. I had to constantly preach on that point. No total
scalpings ever occurred, but it was a constant worry and a few small
floating locks were removed.

Harold
KD5SAK


With lathes I remember a major hazard was ties when someone would
flip his over his shoulder or tuck it into his apron instead of removing
it.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

Dan wrote:
kd5sak wrote:
"COLIN LAMB" wrote in message
ink.net...
If it still is a concern, limit the use to adults and then have them
sign an appropriate release. In addition, you probably should
already have some liability insurance. The dangers from a lathe are
much less than a rotating propeller. I suspect more injuries occur
using a drill press than a lathe.

Colin

Speaking as an old Jr. High Shop teacher, I suspect you are right
about the drill press.
Especially when attempting to drill sheet metal. If not securely
retained sheet metal instantaneously becomes a rotating blade when
the bit grabs, as it often does. Some of my
60s longhairs also learned they needed to restrain their flowing locks
when working near
rotating machinery. I had to constantly preach on that point. No total
scalpings ever occurred, but it was a constant worry and a few small
floating locks were removed.

Harold
KD5SAK

With lathes I remember a major hazard was ties when someone would flip
his over his shoulder or tuck it into his apron instead of removing it.

Then you have forgetting the chuck key in the chuck (duck!)

Next, cutting too much material at once resulting in a broken cutting
tool (crack!), an ugly workpiece, and a lesson learned... which is also
why one wears eye protection.


Serious suggestion:

Maybe you (the original poster) could run a hands-on demo at the next
chapter meeting. If you could make even a small number of people (three
or four?) not afraid to use it that might do the trick. Who here admits
to experiencing, as a builder, fear of the unknown, be it tools,
welding, metal wood, glass/composite, etc, on at least one occasion? I
admit it.

"Jim Carriere" wrote

Then you have forgetting the chuck key in the chuck (duck!)

I have a serious suggestion to solve that problem. I am a shop (carpentry)
teacher, and it is convenient, impossible to loose a key, and safe.

Tape (or buy a holder) the chuck key to the power cord, about a foot from
the plug.

You have to unplug the drill while changing bits. (good idea)
You keep from misplacing the chuck key (a good thing)
You never will turn on the drill press with the chuck key in the drill. (a
very good thing)
--
Jim in NC

"Dan" wrote in message
news:RC3Kf.4733$Ug4.1284@dukeread12...
kd5sak wrote:

With lathes I remember a major hazard was ties when someone would flip
his over his shoulder or tuck it into his apron instead of removing it.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

You just made me remember ties. My principal got enthused about teachers
looking unprofessional and required that all shop teachers wear one. Now one
feature of my personality is my undeniable propensity for "messin'" with
authority. I did comply with his dress requirement, but my tie was always a
"clip-on" and, in class, it was usually clipped to my shirt pocket. He never
questioned my fashion selection, but we'd have had a discussion on safety
issues if the point had been raised.(G)

Harold
KD5SAK