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S.W.I.N.E. (Students Wildly Ignorant aboujt Nearly Everything)



 
 
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Old February 19th 06, 07:39 AM posted to rec.aviation.military.naval
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The University of Washington's student senate rejected a memorial for
alumnus Gregory "Pappy" Boyington of "Black Sheep Squadron" fame amid
concerns a military hero who shot down enemy planes was not the right
kind of person to represent the school.


Student senator Jill Edwards, according to minutes of the student
government's meeting last week, said she "didn't believe a member of
the Marine Corps was an example of the sort of person UW wanted to
produce."


Ashley Miller, another senator, argued "many monuments at UW already
commemorate rich white men."


Senate member Karl Smith amended the resolution to eliminate a clause
that said Boyington "was credited with destroying 26 enemy aircraft,
tying the record for most aircraft destroyed by a pilot in American
Uniform," for which he was awarded the Navy Cross.


Smith, according to the minutes, said "the resolution should commend
Colonel Boyington's service, not his killing of others."


The senate's decision was reported first by Seattle radio talk-host
Kirby Wilbur of KVI, whose listeners were "absolutely incensed,"
according to producer Matt Haver.


Brent Ludeman, president of the university's College Republicans, told
WND in an e-mail the decision "reflects poorly on the university."


"Pappy Boyington went beyond the call of duty to serve and protect this

country - he simply deserves better," Ludeman said. "Just last year,
the university erected a memorial to diversity. Why can't we do the
same for Pappy Boyington and others who have defended our country?"


The resolution points out Boyington, a student at the UW from 1930-34,
served as a combat pilot in the 1st Squadron, American Volunteer Group
- the "Flying Tigers of China" - and later as a Marine Corps combat
pilot in charge of Marine Fighting Squadron 214, "The Black Sheep
Squadron."


Along with the Navy Cross, Boyington was awarded the Medal of Honor by
President Franklin D. Roosevelt for his heroism. He was shot down and
spent 20 months in a Japanese prisoner-of-war camp.


The resolution says, "Be it resolved ... [t]hat we consider Col.
Gregory Boyington, United States Marine Corps, to be a prime example of

the excellence that this university represents and strives to impart
upon its students, and, That we desire for a memorial for Col.
Boyington be commenced by the University of Washington by 11 January
2008, the twentieth anniversary of his death, which will be publicly
displayed, so that all who come here in future years will know that the

University of Washington produced one of this country's bravest men,
and that we as a community hold this fact in the highest esteem."


Commenting on the decision, a blogger who says he met Boyington on
numerous occasions at a museum and air show over the years noted the
famous flyer "was no rich boy," having grown up in a struggling family
in which he was forced to work hard to make it through school. The
blogger, who hosts the website Paradosis, also pointed out Boyington
was part Sioux.


Boyington was open about his marital problems and alcohol abuse, saying

notably, "Just name a hero and I'll prove he's a bum."


The blogger wondered, "have our Washington youth revised history so
much as this? To compare Boyington - or for that matter any of our
WW2 vets - to murderers? What are these kids being taught today? They
don't deserve those 20 months Pappy spent being tortured and beaten in
a Japanese prison camp ... they don't deserve any of what our
grandfathers and grandmothers sacrificed to free Europe and the
Pacific."


Boyington wrote a book in 1958 that reached the best-seller list, "Baa
Baa, Black Sheep." In 1976, he sold rights to Universal, which aired a
TV series for two seasons of the same name.


Boyington, who died Jan. 11, 1988, is buried in Arlington National
Cemetery.
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Yofuri wrote:


Senate member Karl Smith amended the resolution to eliminate a clause
that said Boyington "was credited with destroying 26 enemy aircraft,
tying the record for most aircraft destroyed by a pilot in American
Uniform," for which he was awarded the Navy Cross.


THat clause should be eliminated because it is WRONG. Boyington was
credited with 26 kills (though he claimed a couple more but unable to be
confirmed) which would make him the highest scoring ace of the US Marine
Corps. The American Aces of Aces was DIck Bong who shot down 40 Japanese
with his P-38.


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Old May 28th 06, 07:05 PM posted to rec.aviation.military.naval
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Patrick Murray wrote:


Yofuri wrote:


Senate member Karl Smith amended the resolution to eliminate a clause
that said Boyington "was credited with destroying 26 enemy aircraft,
tying the record for most aircraft destroyed by a pilot in American
Uniform," for which he was awarded the Navy Cross.



THat clause should be eliminated because it is WRONG. Boyington was
credited with 26 kills (though he claimed a couple more but unable to be
confirmed) which would make him the highest scoring ace of the US Marine
Corps. The American Aces of Aces was DIck Bong who shot down 40 Japanese
with his P-38.


Quite true; a confusion of eras and aces.

The confusion probably results from the reports of Bong's action on 12
April 1944 when his three kills took him to twenty-eight, exceeding
Rickenbacker's WWI record of twenty-six.

Rick

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