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Old June 2nd 07, 02:05 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Mxsmanic
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Default Gliders in the Grand Canyon

If there were no airspace restrictions, would it be possible/safe to fly
gliders in the Grand Canyon? There's not much of a place to land in the
canyon, of course, but I don't know if there are thermals or something (?)
that would allow a glider to climb back up out of the canyon after gliding
below the rim. Is it possible? Has anyone done it?
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Old June 2nd 07, 02:29 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Ron Natalie
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Mxsmanic wrote:
If there were no airspace restrictions, would it be possible/safe to fly
gliders in the Grand Canyon? There's not much of a place to land in the
canyon, of course, but I don't know if there are thermals or something (?)
that would allow a glider to climb back up out of the canyon after gliding
below the rim. Is it possible? Has anyone done it?


Go read SFAR 50-2 and come back if you have further questions.
You can't operate even a powered aircraft below the rim in most
places.
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Old June 2nd 07, 02:57 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bob Moore
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Ron Natalie wrote

Mxsmanic wrote:
If there were no airspace restrictions, would it be possible/safe to
fly gliders in the Grand Canyon?


Go read SFAR 50-2 and come back if you have further questions.
You can't operate even a powered aircraft below the rim in most
places.


Ron, he stated "If there were no airspace restrictions". Seems to me
as if he is inquiring about the physics of the situation, not the
legality.

Bob Moore
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Old June 2nd 07, 03:00 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Mxsmanic
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Default Gliders in the Grand Canyon

Ron Natalie writes:

Go read SFAR 50-2 and come back if you have further questions.


Go back and read the qualifier "IF THERE WERE NO AIRSPACE RESTRICTIONS" in my
original question, and then answer the question, if you can and wish to do so.
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Old June 2nd 07, 03:00 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Default Gliders in the Grand Canyon


"Ron Natalie" wrote in message
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Mxsmanic wrote:
If there were no airspace restrictions, would it be possible/safe to fly
gliders in the Grand Canyon? There's not much of a place to land in the
canyon, of course, but I don't know if there are thermals or something
(?)
that would allow a glider to climb back up out of the canyon after
gliding
below the rim. Is it possible? Has anyone done it?


Go read SFAR 50-2 and come back if you have further questions.
You can't operate even a powered aircraft below the rim in most
places.


Is that a recent rule? I vividly remember my trip to the Grand Canyon in
1985 It was our honeymoon and I havent been able to get back since.
We took a 1 hour flight in a Twin Otter of Grand Canyon Airlines. It went
way down into canyon, and it was quite specatacular looking out the window
to see a rock wall. I will also never forget hearing on the news about 3
months later that one of these planes ( I never did find out if it was the
same one) had a midair with a helicopter killing all onboard.
Terry
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Old June 2nd 07, 04:12 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Peter Dohm
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"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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Ron Natalie writes:

Go read SFAR 50-2 and come back if you have further questions.


Go back and read the qualifier "IF THERE WERE NO AIRSPACE RESTRICTIONS" in

my
original question, and then answer the question, if you can and wish to do

so.


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Old June 2nd 07, 04:18 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Peter Dohm
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"Peter Dohm" wrote in message
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"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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Ron Natalie writes:

Go read SFAR 50-2 and come back if you have further questions.


Go back and read the qualifier "IF THERE WERE NO AIRSPACE RESTRICTIONS"

in
my
original question, and then answer the question, if you can and wish to

do
so.


That was not supposed to be sent!

What I intended to say was that: "If a picture is worth 1000 words, a look
from the rim is worth 1000 volumes."





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Old June 3rd 07, 04:42 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bertie the Bunyip[_4_]
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Default Gliders in the Grand Canyon

Mxsmanic wrote in
:

If there were no airspace restrictions, would it be possible/safe to
fly gliders in the Grand Canyon? There's not much of a place to land
in the canyon, of course, but I don't know if there are thermals or
something (?) that would allow a glider to climb back up out of the
canyon after gliding below the rim. Is it possible? Has anyone done
it?


Why, ? You'll never do it.


Bertie
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Old June 3rd 07, 04:45 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bertie the Bunyip[_6_]
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Default Gliders in the Grand Canyon

Mxsmanic wrote in
:

Ron Natalie writes:

Go read SFAR 50-2 and come back if you have further questions.


Go back and read the qualifier "IF THERE WERE NO AIRSPACE
RESTRICTIONS" in my original question, and then answer the question,
if you can and wish to do so.



I can. I learned to fly in gliders and I'll send you the answer for a
bargain $100


Bertie
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Old June 3rd 07, 05:15 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Default Gliders in the Grand Canyon

Mxsmanic wrote:
If there were no airspace restrictions, would it be possible/safe to fly
gliders in the Grand Canyon? There's not much of a place to land in the
canyon, of course, but I don't know if there are thermals or something (?)
that would allow a glider to climb back up out of the canyon after gliding
below the rim. Is it possible? Has anyone done it?


Since according to you MSFS acurately simulates everything including
wake turbulance and posters here are not believeable, why are you
asking instead of just using MSFS to answer the question?


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