Why must night landings be full-stop?

Anyone know why landings for night currency have to be to a full stop?

rg

On Sat, 15 Mar 2008 00:58:48 -0700, Ron Garret
wrote:

Anyone know why landings for night currency have to be to a full stop?


Could it be because it may be difficult to see where the far end of
the runway is located at night?

On Mar 15, 3:41*am, Larry Dighera wrote:
On Sat, 15 Mar 2008 00:58:48 -0700, Ron Garret
wrote:

Anyone know why landings for night currency have to be to a full stop?

Could it be because it may be difficult to see where the far end of
the runway is located at night?

I think that's easier to see than during the daytime. It's all lit up
in red.

Recently, Ron Garret posted:

Anyone know why landings for night currency have to be to a full stop?

Possibly because currency for carrying pax also requires full-stop
landings. Getting night currency satisfies both requirements.

Best,

Neil

In article ,
"Neil Gould" wrote:

Anyone know why landings for night currency have to be to a full stop?

Possibly because currency for carrying pax also requires full-stop
landings. Getting night currency satisfies both requirements.

Day currency to carry passengers don't require full stop landings.

To the OP: IIRC, this was discussed several (many?) months ago without
resolution.

--
Bob Noel
(goodness, please trim replies!!!)

On Sat, 15 Mar 2008 07:13:27 -0400, Bob Noel
wrote:

In article ,
"Neil Gould" wrote:

Anyone know why landings for night currency have to be to a full stop?

Possibly because currency for carrying pax also requires full-stop
landings. Getting night currency satisfies both requirements.

Day currency to carry passengers don't require full stop landings.


The lighting conditions during the day may be superior to those at
night, thus facilitating visually acquiring the location of the far
end of the runway, so as to estimate whether there is sufficient
runway remaining to conduct the takeoff phase of the touch and go
maneuver.

On Mar 15, 8:30 am, Larry Dighera wrote:
On Sat, 15 Mar 2008 07:13:27 -0400, Bob Noel

wrote:
In article ,
"Neil Gould" wrote:

Anyone know why landings for night currency have to be to a full stop?

Possibly because currency for carrying pax also requires full-stop
landings. Getting night currency satisfies both requirements.

Day currency to carry passengers don't require full stop landings.

The lighting conditions during the day may be superior to those at
night, thus facilitating visually acquiring the location of the far
end of the runway, so as to estimate whether there is sufficient
runway remaining to conduct the takeoff phase of the touch and go
maneuver.

Do you perchance work for the IRS or other extraneous gub'mnt agency?

If not, your talents for obfuscation are wasted here.

On Sat, 15 Mar 2008 06:36:23 -0600, "Neil Gould"
wrote:


Possibly because currency for carrying pax also requires full-stop
landings.

To coin a phrase...

Nope! G

What is "currency for carrying pax"?

On Sat, 15 Mar 2008 06:36:23 -0600, "Neil Gould"
wrote:

Recently, Ron Garret posted:

Anyone know why landings for night currency have to be to a full stop?

Possibly because currency for carrying pax also requires full-stop
landings. Getting night currency satisfies both requirements.


Day full-stop landings for passenger carrying currency are only
required for tail-wheel aircraft:



http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/text....1.1.2&idno=14
§ 61.57 Recent flight experience: Pilot in command.

(a) General experience. (1) Except as provided in paragraph (e) of
this section, no person may act as a pilot in command of an aircraft
carrying passengers or of an aircraft certificated for more than one
pilot flight crewmember unless that person has made at least three
takeoffs and three landings within the preceding 90 days, and—

(i) The person acted as the sole manipulator of the flight
controls; and

(ii) The required takeoffs and landings were performed in an
aircraft of the same category, class, and type (if a type rating is
required), and, if the aircraft to be flown is an airplane with a
tailwheel, the takeoffs and landings must have been made to a full
stop in an airplane with a tailwheel.

(2) For the purpose of meeting the requirements of paragraph
(a)(1) of this section, a person may act as a pilot in command of an
aircraft under day VFR or day IFR, provided no persons or property are
carried on board the aircraft, other than those necessary for the
conduct of the flight.

(3) The takeoffs and landings required by paragraph (a)(1) of this
section may be accomplished in a flight simulator or flight training
device that is—

(i) Approved by the Administrator for landings; and

(ii) Used in accordance with an approved course conducted by a
training center certificated under part 142 of this chapter.

(b) Night takeoff and landing experience. (1) Except as provided
in paragraph (e) of this section, no person may act as pilot in
command of an aircraft carrying passengers during the period beginning
1 hour after sunset and ending 1 hour before sunrise, unless within
the preceding 90 days that person has made at least three takeoffs and
three landings to a full stop during the period beginning 1 hour after
sunset and ending 1 hour before sunrise, and—

(i) That person acted as sole manipulator of the flight controls;
and

(ii) The required takeoffs and landings were performed in an
aircraft of the same category, class, and type (if a type rating is
required).

(2) The takeoffs and landings required by paragraph (b)(1) of this
section may be accomplished in a flight simulator that is—

(i) Approved by the Administrator for takeoffs and landings, if
the visual system is adjusted to represent the period described in
paragraph (b)(1) of this section; and

(ii) Used in accordance with an approved course conducted by a
training center certificated under part 142 of this chapter.

Larry Dighera wrote in
:

On Sat, 15 Mar 2008 06:36:23 -0600, "Neil Gould"
wrote:

Recently, Ron Garret posted:

Anyone know why landings for night currency have to be to a full
stop?

Possibly because currency for carrying pax also requires full-stop
landings. Getting night currency satisfies both requirements.


Day full-stop landings for passenger carrying currency are only
required for tail-wheel aircraft:



http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/text...dx?c=ecfr&sid=
477ffe5f8e7b7b
7fc7d82953c1e69200&rgn=div5&view=text&node=14:2.0. 1.1.2&idno=14
§ 61.57 Recent flight experience: Pilot in command.

(a) General experience. (1) Except as provided in paragraph (e) of
this section, no person may act as a pilot in command of an aircraft
carrying passengers or of an aircraft certificated for more than one
pilot flight crewmember unless that person has made at least three
takeoffs and three landings within the preceding 90 days, and—

(i) The person acted as the sole manipulator of the flight
controls; and

(ii) The required takeoffs and landings were performed in an
aircraft of the same category, class, and type (if a type rating is
required), and, if the aircraft to be flown is an airplane with a
tailwheel, the takeoffs and landings must have been made to a full
stop in an airplane with a tailwheel.

(2) For the purpose of meeting the requirements of paragraph
(a)(1) of this section, a person may act as a pilot in command of an
aircraft under day VFR or day IFR, provided no persons or property are
carried on board the aircraft, other than those necessary for the
conduct of the flight.

(3) The takeoffs and landings required by paragraph (a)(1) of this
section may be accomplished in a flight simulator or flight training
device that is—

(i) Approved by the Administrator for landings; and

(ii) Used in accordance with an approved course conducted by a
training center certificated under part 142 of this chapter.

(b) Night takeoff and landing experience. (1) Except as provided
in paragraph (e) of this section, no person may act as pilot in
command of an aircraft carrying passengers during the period beginning
1 hour after sunset and ending 1 hour before sunrise, unless within
the preceding 90 days that person has made at least three takeoffs and
three landings to a full stop during the period beginning 1 hour after
sunset and ending 1 hour before sunrise, and—

(i) That person acted as sole manipulator of the flight controls;
and

(ii) The required takeoffs and landings were performed in an
aircraft of the same category, class, and type (if a type rating is
required).

(2) The takeoffs and landings required by paragraph (b)(1) of this
section may be accomplished in a flight simulator that is—

(i) Approved by the Administrator for takeoffs and landings, if
the visual system is adjusted to represent the period described in
paragraph (b)(1) of this section; and

(ii) Used in accordance with an approved course conducted by a
training center certificated under part 142 of this chapter.



I bet you sit at the airport and check on people doing this.



Bertie