Is it Possible to Self launch (no wingman) with CG hook??

Jack wrote:
Shawn wrote:

Prevailing wind will plaster the box against the airport fence, to be
recycled after the flight.
The next 1-26 to land will take care of the saw horse.


Be careful what you say about the 1-26: your Mosquito could catch a Virus.


Jack

Catch one? I could mop the floor with one, once the engine is off.
:-)
http://www.pipistrel.si/virus.htm
Actually, I only picked on the 1-26 because its wing is so close to the
ground.

Shawn

Uzytkownik "Shawn" napisal w wiadomosci
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Catch one? I could mop the floor with one, once the engine is off.
:-)
http://www.pipistrel.si/virus.htm
Actually, I only picked on the 1-26 because its wing is so close to the
ground.

Well, by the way of this thread, I have took a look at few websites
regarding ultralights. Look what a nice plane I have found, it tows gliders
too (the 550 Trener model)...

http://www.3xtrim.pl/

Regards,


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Poland

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"Bill Daniels" wrote in message news:sbPid.368503$D%.307763@attbi_s51...
A CG hook is a disadvantage only if you never plan to winch launch.

I was shown at rig made with PVC plumbing pipe for just such a situation.
it worked like a saw horse with a carpeted top and could be broken down for
storage in the glider trailer. Starting with the wings close to level is a
big help.

I don't think I would try a CG hook, wing-on-the-ground start with my Nimbus

Bill Daniels

Have done it in my Nimbus 3 and many times in my Pegasus, both CG hooks.

On Fri, 5 Nov 2004 15:54:48 UTC, (Jerz Rossignol)
wrote:

: I'm curious if any of you guys have ever tried to self launch with no
: wing man on a cg hook only glider.

Yes. I had an aerotow retrieve in a Slingsby Swallow from a disused
airfield. Only myself and the tug pilot there.

Ian

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I've used the "stick" method several times on retrieves -- find two
sticks, put them under the wings to hold them level. It works best
with 10 mph or so headwind. If you can talk the tow pilot into running
up for 30 sec or so so you get some prop blast before you start and
less prop blast halfway through the roll that helps too.

One thing nobody has mentioned is that a good tailwheel is much more
important to the success of this sort of thing than nose vs. cg hook.
Gliders with a skid are much more vulnerable to groundloops, and
gliders with cg hooks plus skid are really bad. Keep the tailwheel
planted on the ground with full back stick until you're really sure
which way the glider is going. If you have an old glued-on skid, spend
the $100 to get a tailwheel instead.


John Cochrane (BB)

(Jerz Rossignol) wrote in message om...
Hi Guys,

I'm curious if any of you guys have ever tried to self launch with no
wing man on a cg hook only glider. I have skids on my wingtips as
well. Would you put the wing that's on the ground further forward at
start? What's the technique!!
I think this is why having a cg hook is a disadvantage.

Regards,

Jerz

In article ,
"tango4" wrote:

Aerotow no problem. Don't try it with a winch though!


Why not? Winch is easier than aerotow: The rapid acceleration
means you have instant roll-axis control.

(done it several times, easy as pie)

- mark

"Mark Newton" wrote in message
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In article ,
"tango4" wrote:

Aerotow no problem. Don't try it with a winch though!


Why not? Winch is easier than aerotow: The rapid acceleration
means you have instant roll-axis control.

(done it several times, easy as pie)

- mark

Instant roll control and no prop wash to deal with.

There was a 'lone ranger' who built a remote controlled winch 20 or 30 years
ago. He could launch himself with no help at all. I'd like to know more
about that winch.

Bill Daniels

You need to be "very very" quick on release if the down wing
does not move forward with the winch launch as the upper wing
starts flying and lifts up and can throw the glider/you into an
end over end cartwheel, fatalities have happened with that scenario.
The winch rapid acceleration is a two edged sword ,as long as
you get the wings both moving forward its easier than a aerotow
wingdown takeoff.
gary
"Mark Newton" wrote in message
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In article ,
"tango4" wrote:

Aerotow no problem. Don't try it with a winch though!


Why not? Winch is easier than aerotow: The rapid acceleration
means you have instant roll-axis control.

(done it several times, easy as pie)

- mark

Bill Daniels wrote:
Instant roll control and no prop wash to deal with.

Actually, the prop wash will help, by providing some airflow
over the wings and control surfaces, giving you a certain
degree of control, even before the speed builds up.

CV

"CV" wrote in message
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Bill Daniels wrote:
Instant roll control and no prop wash to deal with.

Actually, the prop wash will help, by providing some airflow
over the wings and control surfaces, giving you a certain
degree of control, even before the speed builds up.

CV

Actually, I'd contend this causes most wing drops since it's usually not
evenly distributed over both wings.