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Old November 16th 04, 02:26 AM
AI Nut
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I need a few brackets and other small sundry items in getting a Mustang II
flyable again. I have changed from an O-320 to a Ford engine, with Blanton
PSRU. Willing to pay and will travel from Huntsville, Alabama. Not willing
to let the work be done on a "when I can get to it" basis anymore -- tried
that 3 times already 8-(.

I'd also like someone teach me to do a full condition inspection so that I
don't miss anything. Same offers as above.

Thanks.
David


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Old November 16th 04, 12:52 PM
jls
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"AI Nut" wrote in message
...
I need a few brackets and other small sundry items in getting a Mustang II
flyable again. I have changed from an O-320 to a Ford engine, with

Blanton
PSRU. Willing to pay and will travel from Huntsville, Alabama. Not

willing
to let the work be done on a "when I can get to it" basis anymore -- tried
that 3 times already 8-(.

I'd also like someone teach me to do a full condition inspection so that I
don't miss anything. Same offers as above.

Thanks.
David


Geez, is this a troll? You want somebody to help you convert an already
squirrelly aircraft with all kinds of sneaky habits into an assbuster?


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Old November 16th 04, 09:44 PM
Orval Fairbairn
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In article ,
" jls" wrote:

"AI Nut" wrote in message
...
I need a few brackets and other small sundry items in getting a Mustang II
flyable again. I have changed from an O-320 to a Ford engine, with

Blanton
PSRU. Willing to pay and will travel from Huntsville, Alabama. Not

willing
to let the work be done on a "when I can get to it" basis anymore -- tried
that 3 times already 8-(.

I'd also like someone teach me to do a full condition inspection so that I
don't miss anything. Same offers as above.

Thanks.
David


Geez, is this a troll? You want somebody to help you convert an already
squirrelly aircraft with all kinds of sneaky habits into an assbuster?



A fellow here at Spruce Creek did the same thing a couple of years ago
-- the plane qas an example of how NOT to do things! He crashed and
killed himself on the first flight.
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Old November 16th 04, 10:38 PM
AI Nut
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Would you have any specifics about what went wrong? Or maybe a list? 8-)

David


"Orval Fairbairn" wrote in message
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In article ,
" jls" wrote:

"AI Nut" wrote in message
...
I need a few brackets and other small sundry items in getting a

Mustang II
flyable again. I have changed from an O-320 to a Ford engine, with

Blanton
PSRU. Willing to pay and will travel from Huntsville, Alabama. Not

willing
to let the work be done on a "when I can get to it" basis anymore --

tried
that 3 times already 8-(.

I'd also like someone teach me to do a full condition inspection so

that I
don't miss anything. Same offers as above.

Thanks.
David


Geez, is this a troll? You want somebody to help you convert an

already
squirrelly aircraft with all kinds of sneaky habits into an assbuster?



A fellow here at Spruce Creek did the same thing a couple of years ago
-- the plane qas an example of how NOT to do things! He crashed and
killed himself on the first flight.



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Old November 17th 04, 02:43 AM
Orval Fairbairn
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In article ,
"AI Nut" wrote:

Would you have any specifics about what went wrong? Or maybe a list? 8-)

David


Yes:

1. The aircraft was a really poor example of a homebuilt, with numerous
poor building practices. It looked really cobbled together.

2. Apparently the belt driving the generator either broke or came off,
taking out the main lead from the coil to the distributor, causing
engine stoppage.

3. He tried to make it into a golf course and failed.

There was another Ford-powered MM-II in LA a few years ago that met t™e
same end. I have no specific details, but I saw it at Oshkosh -- it
reminded me of the one here -- VERY bad workmanship and VERY rough!

If you want to pursue the Ford conversion, get acquainted with racing
people and learn what they do to assure reliability -- things like
scatter shields, ignition protection, etc.

I seriously doubt that you will gain anything overall (other than
headaches) from your Ford conversion.
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Old November 17th 04, 02:31 PM
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On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 01:43:22 GMT, Orval Fairbairn
wrote:

Yes:

1. The aircraft was a really poor example of a homebuilt, with numerous
poor building practices. It looked really cobbled together.

2. Apparently the belt driving the generator either broke or came off,
taking out the main lead from the coil to the distributor, causing
engine stoppage.

3. He tried to make it into a golf course and failed.

There was another Ford-powered MM-II in LA a few years ago that met t™e
same end. I have no specific details, but I saw it at Oshkosh -- it
reminded me of the one here -- VERY bad workmanship and VERY rough!

If you want to pursue the Ford conversion, get acquainted with racing
people and learn what they do to assure reliability -- things like
scatter shields, ignition protection, etc.

I seriously doubt that you will gain anything overall (other than
headaches) from your Ford conversion.


Like any engine being used to power an airplane, it must be finished
with aircraft grade materials and using aircraft practices.

There is a history with the Ford engines and everything that has gone
wrong to this point is documented and a change engineered. There are
a lot of Fords successfully flying out there, we should learn from
what works as well as what did not work. There is no excuse for
building a Ford engine today and not taking advantage of the knowledge
that has gone before. No excuse unless you don't like living much.

Our EAA chapter hosted a DAR last winter. The guy was old,
cantankerous and obnoxious. But I walked away from the meeting
understanding that I had better document the development of my engine
(Ford 3.8L V6) accurately or that guy was going to be all over me.

So I fabricated an engine test stand that is tall enough to mount the
engine in it and have it run with the prop installed. I plan to run
the engine extensively, not just for the benefit of the DAR, but for
my benefit too. It will be fully instrumented and the plan is to run
it for at least 20 or 30 hours. I will of course run the engine at
full throttle for simulated takeoffs and climbs.

This will be a test for the engine, the exhaust system as well as the
viability of the cooling system. In addition, I'll be testing the
ignition systems too. In fact every component of the engine will be
wrung out.

Only when the engine has passed all these tests does it go onto the
frame.

Corky Scott


 




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