Thanks for the Spins Rich

David B. Cole wrote:

Ok, then don't.

Well, you brought it up. I'd like to understand your reasoning.

- Andrew

Great write up. I took a 3-day, 5 mission EMT course based on Rich's work
down in Arizona this spring and went to a WINGS seminar that Rich did this
fall. I completely agree that this is some of the best $ spent after the
private lessons. I came away feeling much more in control of the airplane
and with significantly enhanced understanding of what it means to fly.

And...aerobatics are sooo much fun.!

Fly safe and fly fast!

--
Patrick Flynn
Sammamish, WA
Cirrus SR22 N6099Z KRNT


"David B. Cole" wrote in message
m...
Today I had an opportunity to fly with Rich Stowell as part of his
annual Emergency Maneuver Training Clinic in NJ. Yesterday we
experienced low viz and fairly low ceilings the entire day with even
worse forecast for today, so it didn't look good for us. But today
turned out to be an almost perfect Fall day with temperatures in the
high 60's to lower 70's.

Much snipped

Dave

Patrick,

I've already put my name on the list for next year's seminar here in
NJ, but I may just have to take a trip to CA to spend a few days there
with Rich. In the meantime there is a guy here in NJ that does
aerobatics and one of the planes he has is a Stearman, which I would
love to fly. He was featured in AOPA Pilot a couple of months ago in
the issue where they highlighted Philly in preparation for the Expo.

Dave

"Flynn" wrote in message news:GHiib.743284$YN5.680572@sccrnsc01...
Great write up. I took a 3-day, 5 mission EMT course based on Rich's work
down in Arizona this spring and went to a WINGS seminar that Rich did this
fall. I completely agree that this is some of the best $ spent after the
private lessons. I came away feeling much more in control of the airplane
and with significantly enhanced understanding of what it means to fly.

And...aerobatics are sooo much fun.!

Fly safe and fly fast!

--
Patrick Flynn
Sammamish, WA
Cirrus SR22 N6099Z KRNT


"David B. Cole" wrote in message
m...
Today I had an opportunity to fly with Rich Stowell as part of his
annual Emergency Maneuver Training Clinic in NJ. Yesterday we
experienced low viz and fairly low ceilings the entire day with even
worse forecast for today, so it didn't look good for us. But today
turned out to be an almost perfect Fall day with temperatures in the
high 60's to lower 70's.

Much snipped

Dave

David B. Cole wrote:

Patrick,

I've already put my name on the list for next year's seminar here in
NJ, but I may just have to take a trip to CA to spend a few days there
with Rich. In the meantime there is a guy here in NJ that does
aerobatics and one of the planes he has is a Stearman, which I would
love to fly. He was featured in AOPA Pilot a couple of months ago in
the issue where they highlighted Philly in preparation for the Expo.

Dave

Here?

http://www.aopa.org/members/files/pi...8.html#vansant

But that's a PA location, no? Still, it doesn't appear to be too far beyond
Pittstown. Here's more on what they offer the

http://www.vansantairport.com/aeroap.html

But the best part...they actually seem to *rent* the Stearman.

- Andrew

Yep, I've already checked them out. Remember I sent you their link a
few months ago when I first started to look for local aerobatic
operations?

Dave

Andrew Gideon wrote in message agonline.com...
David B. Cole wrote:

Patrick,

I've already put my name on the list for next year's seminar here in
NJ, but I may just have to take a trip to CA to spend a few days there
with Rich. In the meantime there is a guy here in NJ that does
aerobatics and one of the planes he has is a Stearman, which I would
love to fly. He was featured in AOPA Pilot a couple of months ago in
the issue where they highlighted Philly in preparation for the Expo.

Dave

Here?

http://www.aopa.org/members/files/pi...8.html#vansant

But that's a PA location, no? Still, it doesn't appear to be too far beyond
Pittstown. Here's more on what they offer the

http://www.vansantairport.com/aeroap.html

But the best part...they actually seem to *rent* the Stearman.

- Andrew

David B. Cole wrote:

Yep, I've already checked them out. Remember I sent you their link a
few months ago when I first started to look for local aerobatic
operations?

So when can we go?

I consider myself a reasonable eloquent writer. But I find I've no way to
completely express what I felt after taking this course.

I could start with the easy stuff. I was nauseated. I'd thought I was
beyond that, as it's not occured since early in my training. But I never
did anything like this. Before I do it again, I'll be sure to have a care
and take precautions (eat some beforehand, no coffee, etc.). I broke all
those rules I'd developed for myself because I thought it didn't matter
anymore.

Ah well. That brings me to "frustrated" and "annoyed with myself". After
four spins (and the "basic flying" practiced earlier, like dutch rolls), I
decided to not risk the nice interior by continuing with a roll or a loop.

Awe is worth mentioning. My entire perspective of flying has shifted. I've
read about adverse yaw, for example, but it is so *obvious* in the Super
Decathalon! I could see that my footwork needs work; I've permitted myself
to become lazy on the rudder - assuming I was ever any better. But I
should shift the subject lest I return to "annoyed with myself".

So let's look instead at eagerness: I need to do this again. This is a
dimension to flying that I never before felt. Even things I thought I knew
are changed. I've already mentioned rudders. But I've always responded to
stalls with large movements that are apparently unnecessary and overkill.
It never occurred to me that I could take a subtle approach.

As Dave wrote at the start of this thread, I plan to do more. I've already
fired off an email to friends in the LA area asking "so, where is this
place relative to you" with regard to the airport where Rich is based.

Of course, I know that there's aero taught around here. Dave already has
something lined up, I think grin. When are we going?

Respect of the airplane also deserves mention. In this one brief flight, I
acquired a new feel for how an aircraft responds to its environment (which
includes the pilot and his/her instructions to the airplane). Part of this
was flying an aircraft far more responsive than I'd ever touched, but part
was the "view" that Rich has and explains. For example, it was easy to see
the relationship between a chandelle and a half-loop followed by a
half-roll (an immelman).

One interesting thing I noticed is that a number of the people taking the
course were students still working on their PPLs. I envy them that. This
is a terrific course, and it teaches a lot about flying. That it also
teaches hands-on responses to situations like spins is just the start.

- Andrew

One of these days, I'm going for a ride in a Stearman or Waco.....Got to do
it.

"David B. Cole" wrote in message
m...
Patrick,

I've already put my name on the list for next year's seminar here in
NJ, but I may just have to take a trip to CA to spend a few days there
with Rich. In the meantime there is a guy here in NJ that does
aerobatics and one of the planes he has is a Stearman, which I would
love to fly. He was featured in AOPA Pilot a couple of months ago in
the issue where they highlighted Philly in preparation for the Expo.

Dave

"Flynn" wrote in message
news:GHiib.743284$YN5.680572@sccrnsc01...
Great write up. I took a 3-day, 5 mission EMT course based on Rich's
work
down in Arizona this spring and went to a WINGS seminar that Rich did
this
fall. I completely agree that this is some of the best $ spent after
the
private lessons. I came away feeling much more in control of the
airplane
and with significantly enhanced understanding of what it means to fly.

And...aerobatics are sooo much fun.!

Fly safe and fly fast!

--
Patrick Flynn
Sammamish, WA
Cirrus SR22 N6099Z KRNT


"David B. Cole" wrote in message
m...
Today I had an opportunity to fly with Rich Stowell as part of his
annual Emergency Maneuver Training Clinic in NJ. Yesterday we
experienced low viz and fairly low ceilings the entire day with even
worse forecast for today, so it didn't look good for us. But today
turned out to be an almost perfect Fall day with temperatures in the
high 60's to lower 70's.

Much snipped

Dave