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Old April 17th 04, 09:38 PM
C J Campbell
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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
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"C J Campbell" wrote in message
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Seems a number of people have forgotten that liberalism has abandoned
liberal principles. Modern liberalism is just monarchy dressed up in new
clothes. It was not so long ago that the people who today call

themselves
liberals were called aristocrats and Tories.


Bingo. Few people today understand the differences between classic
liberalism and modern liberalism. They are polar opposites.


I think it is funny as heck that liberals like to compare JFK's
administration to Camelot. Shows what their real values are.


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Old April 17th 04, 09:45 PM
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Whenever we get into these kinds of discussions it usually means things are
going OK and we have no major issues to unite against.

I hope all continues to go well this year, GA could use it!

Peter


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Old April 17th 04, 09:48 PM
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Most of it comes from taxes on airline tickets.


And airlines generate most of the costs.



The average G/A guy who flys a Cessna 182 100 hours a year
doesn't begin to pay for the system.


The average G/A who flies a Cessna 182 100 hours a year doesn't begin to
burden the system.


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Old April 17th 04, 09:49 PM
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"C J Campbell" writes:

"Theorem" wrote in message
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BllFs6 wrote:

Liberalism is Communism one drink at a time. - P.J. O'Rourke



If only it was even as good as that

Liberalism is more imprisoning than communism ever thought of being

while
hiding under the fake facade of true freedom.....


Jesus was a liberal.


Then why do liberals hate him? Why don't liberals espouse the principals
that Jesus taught?


In fact, we do, mostly. We just deny that he's a particularly
authoritative source, and arrive at many of the same principles from
other directions.

Now, if the *Christians* could just get together around those
principles, we might have something.
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Old April 17th 04, 09:55 PM
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Well, although that may be true for you, there are lots of Cessna
182's that make a lot of instrument approaches at airports with
control towers. Or, even instrument approaches at airports
without control towers; all supported by center equipment,
controllers, FAA approach designers, expensive flight inspections,
etc., etc.


How many control towers would be shut down if those Cessna 182s did not
exist? How many approaches could be dropped if those Cessna 182s did not
exist? How many centers could be shut down? How many controllers could be
terminated? Etc., etc., etc.


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Old April 17th 04, 10:13 PM
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Well....that is true for the cost of the center building. It isn't
necessarily true where an approach control serves what is
primarily a general aviation airport.


What's a primarily general aviation airport? One where the majority of the
traffic is general aviation? Yup, there are plenty of airports with
approach control facilities that have more general aviation traffic than air
carrier traffic, but there aren't very many that would have approach control
facilities if the airlines weren't there.



And, it certainly isn't true for instrument approach procedures
established for airports that have no commercial traffic (which is
many, many more instrument approach procedures than those
established for airports with mostly, or some, commercial
operations.


Yup. But a lot of those airports that have no commercial traffic today are
airports that formerly had commercial traffic and exist only because they
were built for the purpose of commercial traffic.


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Old April 17th 04, 10:20 PM
Steven P. McNicoll
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"C J Campbell" wrote in message
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I think it is funny as heck that liberals like to compare JFK's
administration to Camelot. Shows what their real values are.


I think it odd that Democrats call their party the party of Jefferson. If
Jefferson was alive today he'd be vilified by Democrats as a right wing
extremist.


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Old April 17th 04, 10:24 PM
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"C J Campbell" wrote:
Seems a number of people have forgotten that liberalism has
abandoned liberal principles.


Yup, and it's distressing to see conservatism in America is doing the
same thing WRT conservative principles.
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Dan
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Old April 17th 04, 10:28 PM
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"Dan Luke" wrote in message
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Yup, and it's distressing to see conservatism in America is doing the
same thing WRT conservative principles.


Bingo again.


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Old April 17th 04, 10:31 PM
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"Philip Sondericker" wrote in message
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Okay, I was gonna stay out of this, but since people are comparing
liberalism to poison, cigarettes and other cancerous substances, it
may be time to remind everyone that our country was founded on
some quite liberal principles. Thomas Jefferson would likely be
appalled to hear liberalism likened to "poison".


Thomas Jefferson was a classic liberal. When people use the term "liberal"
or "liberalism" today they are referring to modern liberalism. Classic
liberalism and modern liberalism are polar opposites.


 




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