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On Fri, 02 Jan 2004 11:02:05 GMT, "Scout"
wrote: You'll have a long wait. As I said, it's from personal experience and personal contacts. In short, you're telling me that this personal, and "popular" opinion is so well known and prevalent that not a single SM has EVER told it to a reporter? I will simply note that your 3rd person testimony means nothing. We've noted that about you ever since you typed your first line in this news group you stupid blowhard. |
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On Fri, 02 Jan 2004 23:04:36 GMT, "Scout"
wrote: Bwahaha. Nice try, Ken. It's like trying to reason with a moron. "Ken Ehrett" wrote in message ws.com... On Fri, 02 Jan 2004 11:09:02 GMT, "Scout" wrote: Isn't it interesting how your notation of how things would work in the air have absolutely no counterpart on the ground. So tell me, why the change in attitude? Is it a function of altitude? You are one thick dumb son of a bitch. Well, I'm trying to understand why you feel everything is going to change because the "building" happens to be airborne. What the hell is the matter with you? Of course the situation is different in the air as opposed to on the ground. Right. Sure. Except it doesn't happen. What does it take for you to understand the difference between a situation where you are between a rock and a hard place verses a situation where you have choices that don't involve being killed. If you see someone being mugged on the street you have at least three choices. You can just ignore the situation and mind your own business, you can go look for a policeman or you can risk your life by intervening to help the victim. Two of those choices do not involve personal risk. If you are on an airplane that is being commandeered by lunatics hell bent on killing everyone on board you have little to lose attacking the hijackers. Yep, even on the ground people do help out, and oddly I'm not aware of any cases where the undercover officer trying to arrest the criminal is the one who is jumped by bystanders. I've explained this to you twice already and explaining it to you again is a waste of time. No, you made strange assertions which make no sense. They obviously don't make sense to a disfunctional troglodyte like yourself who seems to like having an argument just for the sake of arguing. ****ing moron. Well, you make claims about their opinions, can't support those claims, and those claims seem contrary to established facts....so tell me again why I should blindly accept your unsupported claims? You don't seem to be able to comprehend human nature. And having a plane load of unarmed people is BETTER to stop them, than having a SM on board? In this era that is probably true. Rest assured, the passengers are not going to sit around like sheep these days against some turd with a box cutter and a sky marshal could easily end up shooting a hole in the plane. Guns are extremely dangerous on a pressurized aircraft. Oh, God, not the utterly ignorant and stupid assertion that a bullet hole will cause an explosive decompression of the aircraft. Ok, at this point, it is quite clear that you don't have any idea what you're talking about. Even a person that has done even the least amount of research, much less one that knows all the SMs you claim, would know that a bullet hole in a modern airliner is NOT, repeat NOT, a problem. Come back when you know what you're talking about. |
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On Fri, 02 Jan 2004 22:17:38 GMT, "Morton Davis"
wrote: " Bogart " wrote in message ws.com... On Fri, 02 Jan 2004 11:12:43 GMT, "Scout" wrote: " Bogart " wrote in message ws.com... You're claiming a locked bulletproof door gave way to ramming from a drink cart? Cite please. Already provided. Finally, by Mort. Oh, and I will note your vast experience and personal knowledge is somewhat..........limited. You seem to think repeating this over and over is somehow going to affect or offend me. Why? I found the info in another post. I got your post but not the other. Oh well, I appreciate you reposting the link again, Mort. -*MORT*- |
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On Fri, 02 Jan 2004 23:09:14 GMT, "Scout"
wrote: " Bogart " wrote in message ws.com... On Fri, 02 Jan 2004 11:12:43 GMT, "Scout" wrote: " Bogart " wrote in message ws.com... You're claiming a locked bulletproof door gave way to ramming from a drink cart? Cite please. Already provided. Finally, by Mort. No actually the message I refer to is by Jim Yanik. Which was posted almost 24 hours before your reply. However, perhaps you hadn't gotten to that message yet. I do note that you have chosen not to respond to his message to date. Never heard of Jim Yanik. Was it posted to alt.nuke.the.usa? If not, I didn't see it. Mort took care of Jim's oversight. |
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"Scout" wrote in message . .. "Dave Whitmarsh" wrote in message s.com... On Fri, 02 Jan 2004 13:23:00 GMT, "Morton Davis" wrote: "Yardpilot" wrote in message news:TX8Jb.38992$xX.133717@attbi_s02... " Bogart " wrote in message s.com... On Thu, 01 Jan 2004 18:04:33 GMT, "Scout" wrote: " Bogart " wrote in message ws.com... On Thu, 01 Jan 2004 15:08:13 GMT, "Scout" wrote: "Bill Funk" wrote in message news On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 10:37:33 -0700, "Kevin McCue" wrote: Wanna bet your life that they wouldn't miss? I wouldn't. I'd rather deal with the terrorist. Since the Dept. of Homeland Insecurity seems to think that the terrorist are likely trained ATP's how will the Air Marshal stop them when they are locked behind that now reinforced, bullet proof cockpit door? The only way a terrorist could get behind that locked, bullet proof door is for someone to open it. The British pliots (or rather, their union) seem to think that having the pilots open that door is a really good idea. Right, which is why it was managed to be opened by a couple of people armed with nothing more than a drink cart. How did they open a locked bullet proof door with a drink cart? They rammed the door with it. You're claiming a locked bulletproof door gave way to ramming from a drink cart? I don't see why it couldn't happen. A bullet proof vest won't sto0p an icepick. http://johnrlott.tripod.com/op-eds/A...shalsWSJE.html " Reinforced cockpit doors are now in place, but because of engineering constraints few experts have much faith in their effectiveness. Last summer, on a bet to test the doors' strength, an overnight cleaning crew at Dulles Airport near Washington, D.C. rammed a drink cart into one of the new doors on a United Airlines plane. The door reportedly broke off its hinges. The doors for European airlines generally provide even less protection." -*MORT*- A tripod webpage as a cite? C'mon Mort, you can't truly be serious here boy. Fine, then go to the source. According to a report in Aviation Week and Space Technology magazine,a cleaning crew 'tested' a new reinforced cockpit door by ramming it with a beverage cart,and knocked the door off it's hinges. Angkor can't be bothered to actually click on a link. -*MORT*- |
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" Bogart " wrote in message s.com... On Fri, 02 Jan 2004 13:23:00 GMT, "Morton Davis" wrote: http://johnrlott.tripod.com/op-eds/A...shalsWSJE.html " Reinforced cockpit doors are now in place, but because of engineering constraints few experts have much faith in their effectiveness. Last summer, on a bet to test the doors' strength, an overnight cleaning crew at Dulles Airport near Washington, D.C. rammed a drink cart into one of the new doors on a United Airlines plane. The door reportedly broke off its hinges. The doors for European airlines generally provide even less protection." Thanks Mort. Scout seems too lazy to provide the cite himself. Actually, I found it in a post by Cole Firearms in another thread. -*MORT*- |
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On Fri, 02 Jan 2004 23:17:39 GMT, Ken Ehrett wrote:
On Fri, 02 Jan 2004 11:02:05 GMT, "Scout" wrote: You'll have a long wait. As I said, it's from personal experience and personal contacts. In short, you're telling me that this personal, and "popular" opinion is so well known and prevalent that not a single SM has EVER told it to a reporter? I will simply note that your 3rd person testimony means nothing. We've noted that about you ever since you typed your first line in this news group you stupid blowhard. Scout thinks we're all from his aviation newsgroup. Bwahaha...etc. |
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On Fri, 02 Jan 2004 23:48:40 GMT, "Morton Davis"
wrote: " Bogart " wrote in message ws.com... On Fri, 02 Jan 2004 13:23:00 GMT, "Morton Davis" wrote: http://johnrlott.tripod.com/op-eds/A...shalsWSJE.html " Reinforced cockpit doors are now in place, but because of engineering constraints few experts have much faith in their effectiveness. Last summer, on a bet to test the doors' strength, an overnight cleaning crew at Dulles Airport near Washington, D.C. rammed a drink cart into one of the new doors on a United Airlines plane. The door reportedly broke off its hinges. The doors for European airlines generally provide even less protection." Thanks Mort. Scout seems too lazy to provide the cite himself. Actually, I found it in a post by Cole Firearms in another thread. Interesting. Scout claims a Jim Yanik posted it. Either way, thanks again as I saw neither post. -*MORT*- |
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On Fri, 02 Jan 2004 23:17:39 GMT, Ken Ehrett wrote:
On Fri, 02 Jan 2004 11:02:05 GMT, "Scout" wrote: You'll have a long wait. As I said, it's from personal experience and personal contacts. In short, you're telling me that this personal, and "popular" opinion is so well known and prevalent that not a single SM has EVER told it to a reporter? I will simply note that your 3rd person testimony means nothing. We've noted that about you ever since you typed your first line in this news group you stupid blowhard. Snout has already spanked your Bogart sock, Sable, is your Kensock feeling a little masochistic as well? Snout has always been lame, but you, Sarah dear, are even lamer. -- The Wit and Wisdom of Mort Davis: On Empathy: "Nick is ignoirant." On his sexual habits: "Box cutters could easily be concealed in shoes, up the rectum or vagina" On American children rummaging through rubbish for food: "True, ythey gewt the inbrads in Parliment to do it" His neo-con solution for world peace: "When Europe ****s itsself again, I suggest we drop nukes on it until no human life remains." Displaying that he's yet another lamer with a sticky Caps Lock key who believes that anyone cares about the contents of his killfile: "Keep changing those fake idents, I have plenty more room in the old killfile, ****TARD." |
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On Sat, 03 Jan 2004 00:37:12 GMT, AH#49 "Asshole™#49"@ your.net
wrote: Bogart wrote: Never heard of Jim Yanik. Was it posted to alt.nuke.the.usa? If not, I didn't see it. Then THAT proves that you are indeed a mental midget, as all you do is watch and post to that retarded, newsgroup! I've posted in tpg. Does that make _you_ a mental midget? |
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