Air America breaking news: "USA to fingerprint ALL visitors !!!"

On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 17:55:36 GMT, Chad Irby wrote:

I'm sure *you* don't, if you think US Customs and Immigration is bad,
compared to most places. Try any of the African nations, for example.
Or Russia.

I've breezed in and out of over a dozen African nations and never had
my photo or my fingerprints taken. Ken didn't have either done when
he visited the fUSSR, either. I've also been to the PRC and military
dictatorships, as well as monarchies. We've never seen any of this
going on.

Have you ever been outside the US? If so, how many African nations
have you visited? Russia? PRC? Military dictatorships?

Mary

--
Mary Shafer Retired aerospace research engineer

Chad Irby wrote:

Try any of the African nations, for example.
Or Russia.



Ah, the advanced world! (-;

gld

On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 17:55:36 +0000, Chad Irby wrote:

In article ,
AJC wrote:

On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 13:57:38 GMT, Chad Irby wrote:

...and even with that, it's still going to be faster than most customs
checks in 99% of the countries in the world.

You don't get out very much do you?

I'm sure *you* don't, if you think US Customs and Immigration is bad,
compared to most places. Try any of the African nations, for example.
Or Russia.

If that's the sort of company you feel the US should be compared with,
well OK then.

"Chad Irby" skrev i meddelandet
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"nobody760" wrote:

So the message is visiting the USA is more trouble than its worth so
I'll go
some place else.

Yeah, that two minute fingerprinting and photo is *sooo* hard after a
six-hour plane flight...

...and even with that, it's still going to be faster than most customs
checks in 99% of the countries in the world.
99% ? Interesting. I transferred recently in 6 minutes from International
to domestic including security check. Was in Sandefjord Norway.
How many transfers international-domestic are done in less 6 minutes in U.S
?

"Lennart Petersen" schreef in bericht
...
99% ? Interesting. I transferred recently in 6 minutes from
International
to domestic including security check. Was in Sandefjord Norway.
How many transfers international-domestic are done in less 6 minutes in
U.S

In the last two weeks I entered:

Hong Kong wait at immigration about 2 minutes
Vietnam wait at immigration about 1 minute
Thailand wait at immigration about 3 minutes
Malaysia wait at immigration about 10 minutes
Vietnam wait at immigration about 10 minutes
Hong Kong wait at immigration about 1 minute
Mongolia got a visa on arrival which had to be processed wait at immigration
about 25 minutes
China wait at immigration about 5 minutes

My trips to the US wait at immigration has never been less than 10 minutes
and several times an hour or more.

Sjoerd

In article ,
"Lennart Petersen" wrote:

99% ? Interesting. I transferred recently in 6 minutes from International
to domestic including security check. Was in Sandefjord Norway.
How many transfers international-domestic are done in less 6 minutes in U.S
?

You're taking a very unusual example (EU internal transfers), and
pretending that it's common worldwide.

Now, *that's* interesting.

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Slam on brakes accordingly.

"Chad Irby" wrote in message
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In article ,
"Lennart Petersen" wrote:

99% ? Interesting. I transferred recently in 6 minutes from
International
to domestic including security check. Was in Sandefjord Norway.
How many transfers international-domestic are done in less 6 minutes in
U.S
?

You're taking a very unusual example (EU internal transfers), and
pretending that it's common worldwide.

Now, *that's* interesting.

Take a look at the previous post.

"Chad Irby" skrev i meddelandet
...
In article ,
"Lennart Petersen" wrote:

99% ? Interesting. I transferred recently in 6 minutes from
International
to domestic including security check. Was in Sandefjord Norway.
How many transfers international-domestic are done in less 6 minutes in
U.S
?

You're taking a very unusual example (EU internal transfers), and
pretending that it's common worldwide.
To start with Norway isn't an EU member, and furthermore EU or Schengen
transfers aren't very unusual. They are made in a number of at least several
hundred thousands daily.
And flights between european countries are counting for much more than 1% of
the worlds flights.
No lines or short lines are typical for the average inter European flight.
Can't remember the last time I had to line up for a long time or having more
than 3-4 persons ahead for the security check or other things. Passport
controls are abolished inside Schengen and customs are typically easy. In
fact the customs have never stopped me at an European airport so far.
May I guess you've never been to Europe or perhaps not much outside your own
rural village ?

"Chad Irby" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"Lennart Petersen" wrote:

99% ? Interesting. I transferred recently in 6 minutes from
International
to domestic including security check. Was in Sandefjord Norway.
How many transfers international-domestic are done in less 6 minutes in
U.S
?

You're taking a very unusual example (EU internal transfers), and
pretending that it's common worldwide.

Now, *that's* interesting.

Please give us, with descriptions, the names of the other countries you have
visited , with the de
times of delays at immigration.

...and even with that, it's still going to be faster than most customs
checks in 99% of the countries in the world.

When I arrive at JFK, I often wait 10-30 minutes in line, and I am a
USA citizen. The other lines are worse, and this is without the finger-
printing and photographing. I contrast that to countries like Finland,
Sweden, Austria, and Switzerland, where I breeze by passport control
hardly slowing down. I am sure this is the same for Denmark, Norway,
Iceland, and many other European countries. Your 99% must exclude
Europe, right?


Pete