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SAFE Winch Launching and automatic gearboxes
At 18:15 20 July 2009, bildan wrote:
Constant tension during the climb phase is exactly what you want. Read George Moore's article in this month's Soaring Magazine. Tension telemetry is a great idea - someone please build it. A kite string or a winch rope forms a catenary arc due to it's weight and air drag. The tension on each end of a catenary arc is the same except for the rope/string weight difference if the ends are at different heights. If 2000 feet of Plasma rope were hanging vertically the tension due to its weight is zero at the bottom and only 20 pounds at the top - that difference doesn't matter much. I think we have established two facts, firstly that you have absolutely no first hand knowledge of the operation of a Skylaunch winch so I think your opinions on that subject can be safely ignored. I have driven many types of winch, for many hours, including the Skylaunch and I know that it works extremely well with none of the "faults" that you imagine it has. It is not the best winch I have ever driven but it is very close and the MVG is not an affordable option for most UK clubs. The MVG is also too complicated for use at most clubs, too many advance features. Now consider the following case. A glider at the top of the launch, the cable is exerting a force on the release hook of x pounds which you deem to be tension. This force is due almost entirely to the weight of the steel cable and is considerable. At the winch end the cable is being retrieved very slowly or not at all, the measurable tension at that end is close to or maybe even equal to 0. The force exerted at either end of the cable is totally different, that is the extreme case of course but, as a glider climbs the "tension" or force exerted on the release will increase as the glider takes more of the weight of the cable. Please explain how this increase can be measured or taken into account at the winch end. Please do not evade the question by discussing plastic rope. All the winches I have ever driven or observed have had something which takes care of the changing circumstances very well, we call that something a driver and a skilled driver does not need gizzmos to give a good launch. I am fast coming to the conclusion that the real problem here is that you are actually afraid of winch launching and if that is the case, don't do it. |
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