iGlide

On Wednesday, February 12, 2020 at 12:37:25 PM UTC-5, kinsell wrote:
On 2/11/20 11:09 PM, John Foster wrote:
On Tuesday, February 3, 2015 at 12:15:06 PM UTC-7, Ben S wrote:
If you are an Air Avionics iGlide user, please share your evaluation.
Also interested in knowing if you are happy with the sunlight
readability of your iPhone. Is iPhone 6 brighter than iPhone 5?

Is iGlide "secure" enough to use for badge flights here in the US? I have the basic version, which will show your flight path on the map, but doesn't offer much more than that, and am thinking of upgrading to a better version this season. I'll be running it on either an iPhone 6 Plus or an iPhone XS Max.


Nope. From page two of this guide:

https://www.ssa.org/files/member/b&rguide.pdf


SC3 provides for individual countries to approve
off-the-shelf GPS Position Recorders for recording Silver or Gold
Badge flights. As of 15 May2010, no such recorders have been
approved for use in the US.

According to the list at http://www.ukiws.demon.co.uk/GFAC/po..._recorders.htm, which is maintained on the web site of the Chairman of the GNSS Flight Recorder Approval Committee (GFAC) of the International Gliding Commission of FAI, the Soaring Society of America has only approved the "FlyWithCE" and the "FlyWithCE FR300" as position recorders (updated 2018). I've OO'd a number of Silver badge legs with FR300's in Canada.

On 2/12/20 3:14 PM, Dan Daly wrote:
On Wednesday, February 12, 2020 at 12:37:25 PM UTC-5, kinsell wrote:
On 2/11/20 11:09 PM, John Foster wrote:
On Tuesday, February 3, 2015 at 12:15:06 PM UTC-7, Ben S wrote:
If you are an Air Avionics iGlide user, please share your evaluation.
Also interested in knowing if you are happy with the sunlight
readability of your iPhone. Is iPhone 6 brighter than iPhone 5?

Is iGlide "secure" enough to use for badge flights here in the US? I have the basic version, which will show your flight path on the map, but doesn't offer much more than that, and am thinking of upgrading to a better version this season. I'll be running it on either an iPhone 6 Plus or an iPhone XS Max.


Nope. From page two of this guide:

https://www.ssa.org/files/member/b&rguide.pdf


SC3 provides for individual countries to approve
off-the-shelf GPS Position Recorders for recording Silver or Gold
Badge flights. As of 15 May2010, no such recorders have been
approved for use in the US.

According to the list at http://www.ukiws.demon.co.uk/GFAC/po..._recorders.htm, which is maintained on the web site of the Chairman of the GNSS Flight Recorder Approval Committee (GFAC) of the International Gliding Commission of FAI, the Soaring Society of America has only approved the "FlyWithCE" and the "FlyWithCE FR300" as position recorders (updated 2018). I've OO'd a number of Silver badge legs with FR300's in Canada.




Looks like the SSA has updated info that matches what you postd. Page 7
of this:

https://www.ssa.org/files/member/B&RGuide_2019.pdf

I'll see if the record keeper can get the obsolete info removed.

Dave

On Tuesday, February 3, 2015 at 2:15:06 PM UTC-5, Ben S wrote:
If you are an Air Avionics iGlide user, please share your evaluation.
Also interested in knowing if you are happy with the sunlight
readability of your iPhone. Is iPhone 6 brighter than iPhone 5?

Top Hat https://www.tophatsoaring.org/ is another excellent glide computer (glide computer only, not a logger). Impressive on a Samsung S10 and its free.

On Wednesday, February 12, 2020 at 5:15:11 PM UTC-8, wrote:
On Tuesday, February 3, 2015 at 2:15:06 PM UTC-5, Ben S wrote:
If you are an Air Avionics iGlide user, please share your evaluation.
Also interested in knowing if you are happy with the sunlight
readability of your iPhone. Is iPhone 6 brighter than iPhone 5?

Top Hat https://www.tophatsoaring.org/ is another excellent glide computer (glide computer only, not a logger). Impressive on a Samsung S10 and its free.

Top Hat as well as XCSoar has a logging function..

On Thu, 13 Feb 2020 07:49:13 -0800, 6PK wrote:

On Wednesday, February 12, 2020 at 5:15:11 PM UTC-8,
wrote:
On Tuesday, February 3, 2015 at 2:15:06 PM UTC-5, Ben S wrote:
If you are an Air Avionics iGlide user, please share your evaluation.
Also interested in knowing if you are happy with the sunlight
readability of your iPhone. Is iPhone 6 brighter than iPhone 5?

Top Hat https://www.tophatsoaring.org/ is another excellent glide
computer (glide computer only, not a logger). Impressive on a Samsung
S10 and its free.

Top Hat as well as XCSoar has a logging function..

So does the other clone, LK8000. It writes G records at the end of a log,
so I suppose that means that XCsoar and TopHat do too.

But AFAIK none of these are accepted anywhere as equivalent to a secure
FR or PR, which means they can't be used for badge claims. They're fine
for the BGAladder and similar national league tables. I don't use OLC so
don't know if they will accept logs from them.


--
Martin | martin at
Gregorie | gregorie dot org

On 2/13/20 10:23 AM, Martin Gregorie wrote:
On Thu, 13 Feb 2020 07:49:13 -0800, 6PK wrote:

On Wednesday, February 12, 2020 at 5:15:11 PM UTC-8,
wrote:
On Tuesday, February 3, 2015 at 2:15:06 PM UTC-5, Ben S wrote:
If you are an Air Avionics iGlide user, please share your evaluation.
Also interested in knowing if you are happy with the sunlight
readability of your iPhone. Is iPhone 6 brighter than iPhone 5?

Top Hat https://www.tophatsoaring.org/ is another excellent glide
computer (glide computer only, not a logger). Impressive on a Samsung
S10 and its free.

Top Hat as well as XCSoar has a logging function..

So does the other clone, LK8000. It writes G records at the end of a log,
so I suppose that means that XCsoar and TopHat do too.

But AFAIK none of these are accepted anywhere as equivalent to a secure
FR or PR, which means they can't be used for badge claims. They're fine
for the BGAladder and similar national league tables. I don't use OLC so
don't know if they will accept logs from them.


Yes OLC will accept them. Unless you're a motorglider, they don't
record engine noise.

Top Hat igc files are acceptable for OLC flights, but not for badges.

On 2/12/2020 6:15 PM, wrote:
On Tuesday, February 3, 2015 at 2:15:06 PM UTC-5, Ben S wrote:
If you are an Air Avionics iGlide user, please share your evaluation.
Also interested in knowing if you are happy with the sunlight
readability of your iPhone. Is iPhone 6 brighter than iPhone 5?
Top Hat https://www.tophatsoaring.org/ is another excellent glide computer (glide computer only, not a logger). Impressive on a Samsung S10 and its free.

--
Dan, 5J

On Thursday, February 13, 2020 at 4:43:10 PM UTC-8, Dan Marotta wrote:
Top Hat igc files are acceptable for OLC flights, but not for badges.

On 2/12/2020 6:15 PM, wrote:
On Tuesday, February 3, 2015 at 2:15:06 PM UTC-5, Ben S wrote:
If you are an Air Avionics iGlide user, please share your evaluation.
Also interested in knowing if you are happy with the sunlight
readability of your iPhone. Is iPhone 6 brighter than iPhone 5?
Top Hat https://www.tophatsoaring.org/ is another excellent glide computer (glide computer only, not a logger). Impressive on a Samsung S10 and its free.

--
Dan, 5J

iGlide will upload your IGC file directly to OLC from the phone, no intermediate steps at all.

On 2/13/20 7:04 PM, jfitch wrote:
On Thursday, February 13, 2020 at 4:43:10 PM UTC-8, Dan Marotta wrote:
Top Hat igc files are acceptable for OLC flights, but not for badges.

On 2/12/2020 6:15 PM, wrote:
On Tuesday, February 3, 2015 at 2:15:06 PM UTC-5, Ben S wrote:
If you are an Air Avionics iGlide user, please share your evaluation.
Also interested in knowing if you are happy with the sunlight
readability of your iPhone. Is iPhone 6 brighter than iPhone 5?
Top Hat https://www.tophatsoaring.org/ is another excellent glide computer (glide computer only, not a logger). Impressive on a Samsung S10 and its free.

--
Dan, 5J

iGlide will upload your IGC file directly to OLC from the phone, no intermediate steps at all.


Does iGlide record engine noise level? Flying a Stemme, he would need that.

No engine noise level with iGlide sadly. I fly a ASH-26e and have inquired about this. I really like iGlide but all of my flights using it are not qualified for OLC.