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  #131  
Old May 18th 10, 08:06 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On May 16, 5:28*pm, Mxsmanic wrote:
george writes:
By flying and training with instructors who actually fly..


If the instructor or student makes a mistake, then what?


They die. They don't reboot the computer and try again. That's the
difference. If I teach somebody incorrectly they may die, and I may
die with them. My life and my family's well-being is on the line every
time I go to work, which is why when some non-flying twit who's never
actually flown an airplane starts contradicting pilots and instructors
in a flying forum, it's worthy contempt, ridicule and exposure as a
perfect example of willful ignorance. Go fly around a few circuits
around a traffic pattern sometime like all students do on Training Day
One and you'll begin to have the capacity to understand. But you have
a stated lack of willingness to do even -that-.

Flying is safe if you do it masterfully and deadly if you do not. The
aviators out here, student or ATP, have demonstrated their mettle by
the fact that they're alive to tell about it.

That's why instructors and pilots out here keep telling you that
you're full of ****. You have no idea where your lack of understanding
even begins and you don't listen when people try to tell you civilly.
I used to defend you and try to explain it to you, but, all of us have
learned that you're not interested in learning, you're interested in
telling everybody how much you know about everything.

Do airline pilots train for spin recovery in their airliners?


Just about every living airline pilot has demonstrated spin recovery
in one aircraft or another. Your options in a spin are to do nothing
and die, or do something and try to recover. Some airplanes do not
recover from spins predictably or without the potential for structural
damage, so, pilots don't spin every airplane the fly.
  #132  
Old May 18th 10, 08:58 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Tue, 18 May 2010 06:14:55 -0700 (PDT), Mark wrote:

On May 17, 6:10*pm, Mxsmanic wrote:

Which aircraft do you fly in MSFS, and where did they come from?


Toys-R-Us.

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  #133  
Old May 18th 10, 09:00 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Mon, 17 May 2010 10:23:47 -0700 (PDT), a wrote:

If you examine the history of MX,


*PLONK*

Enough of you, Idiot.
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  #135  
Old May 18th 10, 09:20 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Alpha Propellerhead writes:

Actually people who take simulation seriously sweat profusely.
Occasionally they become "airsick" which is why there's a barf bag
within arm's reach. One time, a guy took it so seriously he freaked
out and yanked the throttle control right out of the simulator
cockpit.


These would be unusual reactions to normal flight regimes.
  #136  
Old May 18th 10, 10:11 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On May 19, 6:33*am, " wrote:
On May 18, 1:15*pm, Alpha Propellerhead wrote:

Which is like playing Call of Duty and then claiming you fought in
World War II.


WOW, great "plain English" analogy.

Shame it's being wasted on whom you replied to as Mx won't get
it......


But the rest of us did and appreciated the point
  #137  
Old May 18th 10, 10:17 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On May 19, 7:06*am, Alpha Propellerhead wrote:
On May 16, 5:28*pm, Mxsmanic wrote:

george writes:
By flying and training with instructors who actually fly..


If the instructor or student makes a mistake, then what?


They die. They don't reboot the computer and try again. That's the
difference. If I teach somebody incorrectly they may die, and I may
die with them. My life and my family's well-being is on the line every
time I go to work, which is why when some non-flying twit who's never
actually flown an airplane starts contradicting pilots and instructors
in a flying forum, it's worthy contempt, ridicule and exposure as a
perfect example of willful ignorance. *Go fly around a few circuits
around a traffic pattern sometime like all students do on Training Day
One and you'll begin to have the capacity to understand. But you have
a stated lack of willingness to do even -that-.

Flying is safe if you do it masterfully and deadly if you do not. The
aviators out here, student or ATP, have demonstrated their mettle by
the fact that they're alive to tell about it.

That's why instructors and pilots out here keep telling you that
you're full of ****. You have no idea where your lack of understanding
even begins and you don't listen when people try to tell you civilly.
I used to defend you and try to explain it to you, but, all of us have
learned that you're not interested in learning, you're interested in
telling everybody how much you know about everything.

Do airline pilots train for spin recovery in their airliners?


Just about every living airline pilot has demonstrated spin recovery
in one aircraft or another. Your options in a spin are to do nothing
and die, or do something and try to recover. Some airplanes do not
recover from spins predictably or without the potential for structural
damage, so, pilots don't spin every airplane the fly.


I let that one go as I have a life outside the Internet.
Well answered.
Fully developed stall recovery is in the PPL/CPL training regime.
I suppose to mixedup that doesn't count
  #138  
Old May 18th 10, 10:40 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On May 18, 4:11*pm, george wrote:

Shame it's being wasted on whom you replied to as Mx won't get
it......


But the rest of us did and appreciated the point


I probably worded that badly as interestingly enough, the rest of us
wouldn't have needed that analogy :-)))

  #139  
Old May 19th 10, 06:08 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Alpha Propellerhead
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On May 17, 11:26*am, Mxsmanic wrote:

I don't know any real life pilot who denies enjoying the visceral
sensations of flight: those are not felt in a desk chair.


I know airline pilots and some other pilots who


Really? You know pilots! Wow! That's truly remarkable.

I like precision and perfection in both flying and driving.


You don't drive, and you don't fly.
  #140  
Old May 19th 10, 06:10 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Alpha Propellerhead
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On May 17, 1:20*pm, " wrote:

I ASKED A VERY DIRECT QUESTION that you FAILED TO ANSWER.

What REAL plane do you fly to support your opionion. *I can support
point by point the difference between MSFS and a real plane (I have
already mentioned one). *What can you provide????



We're waiting, MX.

 




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