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Home Built 51% Rule Under the Gun
Roger (K8RI) wrote: There is some logic missing from this 51% argument. snip As far as I can see a *good* builders center operating with in the letter and intent of the 51% rule could teach me more in one week than I can learn on my own stumbling around for a year or two. I'd learn more and get things done faster. Unfortunately as I have said before, being retired and on a budget that is not an option. Why not enroll in A&P school? If there's a community college around it should not be too expensive and a Pell grant will probably pay half for free anyway. |
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Home Built 51% Rule Under the Gun
Ernest Christley wrote: Bret Ludwig wrote: snip Same with the FDA. I should be allowed to hand money to any quack I choose to pull a splinter, but you can bet your bottom I'll be searching for a real reliable certification before someone comes at me with a knife. Difference is, I get to choose. Problem is, people don't want choice. They want to be coddled, so this foolishness will continue. What, are we libertarians? We are not libertarians yet, and you may tell that to your followers! (Arthur Miller, The Crucible) |
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Home Built 51% Rule Under the Gun
On 22 Sep 2006 14:18:40 -0700, "Bret Ludwig"
wrote: Roger (K8RI) wrote: There is some logic missing from this 51% argument. snip As far as I can see a *good* builders center operating with in the letter and intent of the 51% rule could teach me more in one week than I can learn on my own stumbling around for a year or two. I'd learn more and get things done faster. Unfortunately as I have said before, being retired and on a budget that is not an option. Why not enroll in A&P school? If there's a community college around it should not be too expensive and a Pell grant will probably pay half for free anyway. At my age? I'm already retired and have been for 10 years. I'd be too old to use it by the time I finished the apprentice part and the nearest school is about 100 miles at the same airport where I took the PTS for my instrument rating. Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member) (N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair) www.rogerhalstead.com |
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Home Built 51% Rule Under the Gun
On 22 Sep 2006 14:18:40 -0700, "Bret Ludwig" wrote: Roger (K8RI) wrote: There is some logic missing from this 51% argument. snip As far as I can see a *good* builders center operating with in the letter and intent of the 51% rule could teach me more in one week than I can learn on my own stumbling around for a year or two. I'd learn more and get things done faster. Unfortunately as I have said before, being retired and on a budget that is not an option. Why not enroll in A&P school? If there's a community college around it should not be too expensive and a Pell grant will probably pay half for free anyway. Pell grant? Qualifying may be the tall pole in the tent. The current regulation, effective July 1, 2006 states you must be a full-time student in you first or second year of higher education. For all the restrictions see (http://www.fafsa.ed.gov/hera.htm) You are going to love filling out the wonderful FAFSA forms. ( http://www.fafsa.ed.gov/) Wayne HP-14 N990 "6F" http://www.soaridaho.com/Schreder/N990_Borah_Mt.JPG |
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Home Built 51% Rule Under the Gun
On Sat, 23 Sep 2006 07:53:01 -0600, "Wayne Paul"
wrote: On 22 Sep 2006 14:18:40 -0700, "Bret Ludwig" wrote: Roger (K8RI) wrote: There is some logic missing from this 51% argument. snip As far as I can see a *good* builders center operating with in the letter and intent of the 51% rule could teach me more in one week than I can learn on my own stumbling around for a year or two. I'd learn more and get things done faster. Unfortunately as I have said before, being retired and on a budget that is not an option. Why not enroll in A&P school? If there's a community college around it should not be too expensive and a Pell grant will probably pay half for free anyway. Pell grant? Qualifying may be the tall pole in the tent. The current regulation, effective July 1, 2006 states you must be a full-time student in you first or second year of higher education. For all the restrictions see (http://www.fafsa.ed.gov/hera.htm) You are going to love filling out the wonderful FAFSA forms. ( http://www.fafsa.ed.gov/) Already having a degree this could prove to be a problem. :-)) Wayne HP-14 N990 "6F" http://www.soaridaho.com/Schreder/N990_Borah_Mt.JPG Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member) (N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair) www.rogerhalstead.com |
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Home Built 51% Rule Under the Gun
"Roger (K8RI)" wrote in message ... On Sat, 23 Sep 2006 07:53:01 -0600, "Wayne Paul" wrote: On 22 Sep 2006 14:18:40 -0700, "Bret Ludwig" wrote: Why not enroll in A&P school? If there's a community college around it should not be too expensive and a Pell grant will probably pay half for free anyway. Pell grant? Qualifying may be the tall pole in the tent. The current regulation, effective July 1, 2006 states you must be a full-time student in you first or second year of higher education. For all the restrictions see (http://www.fafsa.ed.gov/hera.htm) You are going to love filling out the wonderful FAFSA forms. ( http://www.fafsa.ed.gov/) Already having a degree this could prove to be a problem. :-)) The new rules even make it a problem for new college freshman who were "duel-enrolled" their senior year of high school. Several states allow student to enroll in a Junior College during their senior year of high school. If in the process, the student declared a field of study (major)they do not meet the "If a first-year student, not have been previously enrolled in an undergraduate program" requirement. This new rule added in January 2006 has denied aid to thousands of needy students. It is especially unfair because it wasn't in effect when the student enrolled at the Junior College; therefore, they couldn't have know that declaring a major would jeopardize their ability to continue their education. Wayne (Retired College Administrator) http://www.soaridaho.com/Schreder/N990_Near_Arco.jpg |
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Home Built 51% Rule Under the Gun
On Sat, 23 Sep 2006 12:35:48 -0600, "Wayne Paul"
wrote: "Roger (K8RI)" wrote in message .. . On Sat, 23 Sep 2006 07:53:01 -0600, "Wayne Paul" wrote: On 22 Sep 2006 14:18:40 -0700, "Bret Ludwig" wrote: Why not enroll in A&P school? If there's a community college around it should not be too expensive and a Pell grant will probably pay half for free anyway. Pell grant? Qualifying may be the tall pole in the tent. The current regulation, effective July 1, 2006 states you must be a full-time student in you first or second year of higher education. For all the restrictions see (http://www.fafsa.ed.gov/hera.htm) You are going to love filling out the wonderful FAFSA forms. ( http://www.fafsa.ed.gov/) Already having a degree this could prove to be a problem. :-)) The new rules even make it a problem for new college freshman who were "duel-enrolled" their senior year of high school. Several states allow student to enroll in a Junior College during their senior year of high school. If in the process, the student declared a field of study (major)they I don't know about other states but a Highschooler that can qualify gets to attend university classes in Michigan. I don't know how they classify them though. I sat next to a kid in Calc II who would have had to have gone through or tested out of Calc I. He wasn't even a senior in high school yet. He'd completed all the required math with good enough grades to take the University calc classes. It was as obvious he wasn't the average age as was I. (I started as a freshman at age 47, changed majors after the first year and still graduated in three and a half) do not meet the "If a first-year student, not have been previously enrolled in an undergraduate program" requirement. Lord, you can go half way through *some* colleges and amass a pile of credits before declaring a major. In recent years they have made it much more difficult to become a professional student though. The same for multiple degrees. Here you don't just have to meet the requirements for the degree, which is some fields wouldn't take many more credits. Now you need an extra 32 credits for each major at least where I went. This new rule added in January 2006 has denied aid to thousands of needy students. It is especially unfair because it wasn't in effect when the student enrolled at the Junior College; therefore, they couldn't have know I had built up enough credits in the electronics area plus the basics to *almost* graduate from a two year college. Of course very few of those counted toward me graduating from the university when I went back full time. The university didn't like my writing (published author) so I had to work at staying awake through English 111 and 112 and that really was the most difficult part of those classes. OTOH I never did declare a major or field in the two year college, but I have a feeling a student in that position would still be denied financial aid.. that declaring a major would jeopardize their ability to continue their education. And yet... they say, "no child left behind" where a high school education now days might qualify the student for flipping burgers or some other minimum wage job. IMO They really should be increasing the grants not limiting them. Wayne (Retired College Administrator) http://www.soaridaho.com/Schreder/N990_Near_Arco.jpg Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member) (N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair) www.rogerhalstead.com |
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