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On Thursday, February 19, 2015 at 10:31:23 AM UTC-6, Dan Marotta wrote:
Thanks for the chuckles!* A few comments: 1.* The scientific community also brought us "global warming" so you're right - you can't trust at least some of those bozos. 2.* We'll probably go Euro style some day.* After all, you brought us the Mercedes and the Aston Martin, both great cars.* All we did was bring you the moon. 3.* Yaaas...* Powers of ten. * Let's talk about dodecafurlongs and hectares.* Microhenries are useful, however. 4.* Nah...* Not calling a spade a spade is the first step to Sharia law.* Note that was a reference to a card game. 5.* I'm neither liberal, socialist, Chinese, nor Russian, and I did use the metric system for my engineering degree.* I simply like the system of knots and feet for my flying. 6.* Really?* Did the French invent the metric system?* If so, I learned something today (a good thing!) 7.* Actually, I do understand metric (see 5 above). 8.* My comments were in actual numeric order. 9.* Spring is approaching in the northern himisphere.* Or is that the northern 5 decispheres? 10. This is all in fun.* I hope you took it that way. :-D On 2/19/2015 7:49 AM, wrote: On Wednesday, February 18, 2015 at 4:46:10 PM UTC-6, Dan Marotta wrote: Why can't we all go metric?* Because 10s of litres per 100 miles is a silly measurement compared to miles per gallon.* Same with knots airspeed and lift/sink vs. km/hr and m/s.* How about inches per teaspoon for mileage? On 2/18/2015 7:44 AM, wrote: On Wednesday, February 18, 2015 at 7:00:07 AM UTC-6, Nigel Pocock wrote: I did about 7500 miles towing trailers round europe last year behind a SWB toyota land cruiser tdi and a VW passat TDi130 estate. With the land cruiser you didnt notice you had anything on the back (even with a Nimbus 4 in a cobra trailer). However fuel consumption was in the low 20mpg and it was uncomfortable. The Passat was great. Measured fuel consumption was 47mpg with a LS6/18 in a tube trailer. Very comfortable and stable up to well in excess of the legal lmit. As said elsewhere the TDI engine characteristics are great for towing. Loads of mid range torque that avoids constant gear changing that you get with a similar size petrol engine. The trick with stability with trailers is to get the weight distibution corect. You want as much as possible over the axle(s) but with a sensible amount on the draw bar. (not hundreds of pounds as I have seen advocated here) If you put all the spare gubbins in the front and back of the trailer you end up with a "dumbell" which is potentially unstable. Nigel Nigel, your mpg numbers are obviously based on British gallons which are kind of an inflated type of imperial gallons (too lazy to look it up right now). I think our mpg values would be 10-20% lower than your numbers.. Why can't we all go metric??? -- Dan Marotta Dan and Steve, Here are a couple more good solid American-value based reasons not to go metric: 1. The scientific community is all metric. Can't trust those bozos. 2. You want us to go Euro-style? Will never happen in this country 3. Powers of ten are too easy to convert. We rather stay with funny conversion factors and fractions, keeps the mind sharp. 4. Isn't metric the first step to Sharia law? 6. Only liberal socialists (and the Chinese/Russians) use the metric system. 5. The French invented the metric nonsense 6. I don't understand metric Anybody else? Did I miss any other 'good' reasons? -- Dan Marotta Here you go, Dan. You're welcome. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History..._metric_system |
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Two kinds of countries.
Those who went to the moon Those who use Metric. 'murica |
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I had a 2010 TDI Sportwagan DSG and pulled a DG300 in a cobra trailer around the Midwest. No major issues except passing trucks could give it a good sway and strong cross winds could be a bit of a hassel. I use a F-150 with a cap for long trips out west and back. Lots of room for all the extra stuff too. You don't even know its back there most of the time. TDI 32 mpg towing F-150 more like 15-20 mpg. Heading back to NEPHI in late June, will be using the truck. Glad gas is cheap again.
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On Thursday, February 19, 2015 at 2:34:40 PM UTC-6, Tony wrote:
Two kinds of countries. Those who went to the moon Those who use Metric. 'murica Tony, I suggest you look again at my point #6 |
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On Thursday, February 19, 2015 at 2:34:40 PM UTC-6, Tony wrote:
Two kinds of countries. Those who went to the moon Those who use Metric. 'murica Tony, Sorry to be pounding this topic (I'm actually off topic) but this made my day: http://www.quora.com/Why-does-the-US...feet-and-miles This makes sense. When shooting at the enemy (preferably from a safe distance) you want to make sure all parties to your 'coalition' use the same measurements. Maybe 'Murica is getting religion after all! |
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Thanks, Herb!
Cheers! Dan On 2/19/2015 11:24 AM, wrote: On Thursday, February 19, 2015 at 10:31:23 AM UTC-6, Dan Marotta wrote: Thanks for the chuckles! A few comments: 1. The scientific community also brought us "global warming" so you're right - you can't trust at least some of those bozos. 2. We'll probably go Euro style some day. After all, you brought us the Mercedes and the Aston Martin, both great cars. All we did was bring you the moon. 3. Yaaas... Powers of ten. Let's talk about dodecafurlongs and hectares. Microhenries are useful, however. 4. Nah... Not calling a spade a spade is the first step to Sharia law. Note that was a reference to a card game. 5. I'm neither liberal, socialist, Chinese, nor Russian, and I did use the metric system for my engineering degree. I simply like the system of knots and feet for my flying. 6. Really? Did the French invent the metric system? If so, I learned something today (a good thing!) 7. Actually, I do understand metric (see 5 above). 8. My comments were in actual numeric order. 9. Spring is approaching in the northern himisphere. Or is that the northern 5 decispheres? 10. This is all in fun. I hope you took it that way. :-D On 2/19/2015 7:49 AM, wrote: On Wednesday, February 18, 2015 at 4:46:10 PM UTC-6, Dan Marotta wrote: Why can't we all go metric? Because 10s of litres per 100 miles is a silly measurement compared to miles per gallon. Same with knots airspeed and lift/sink vs. km/hr and m/s. How about inches per teaspoon for mileage? On 2/18/2015 7:44 AM, wrote: On Wednesday, February 18, 2015 at 7:00:07 AM UTC-6, Nigel Pocock wrote: I did about 7500 miles towing trailers round europe last year behind a SWB toyota land cruiser tdi and a VW passat TDi130 estate. With the land cruiser you didnt notice you had anything on the back (even with a Nimbus 4 in a cobra trailer). However fuel consumption was in the low 20mpg and it was uncomfortable. The Passat was great. Measured fuel consumption was 47mpg with a LS6/18 in a tube trailer. Very comfortable and stable up to well in excess of the legal lmit. As said elsewhere the TDI engine characteristics are great for towing. Loads of mid range torque that avoids constant gear changing that you get with a similar size petrol engine. The trick with stability with trailers is to get the weight distibution corect. You want as much as possible over the axle(s) but with a sensible amount on the draw bar. (not hundreds of pounds as I have seen advocated here) If you put all the spare gubbins in the front and back of the trailer you end up with a "dumbell" which is potentially unstable. Nigel Nigel, your mpg numbers are obviously based on British gallons which are kind of an inflated type of imperial gallons (too lazy to look it up right now). I think our mpg values would be 10-20% lower than your numbers. Why can't we all go metric??? -- Dan Marotta Dan and Steve, Here are a couple more good solid American-value based reasons not to go metric: 1. The scientific community is all metric. Can't trust those bozos. 2. You want us to go Euro-style? Will never happen in this country 3. Powers of ten are too easy to convert. We rather stay with funny conversion factors and fractions, keeps the mind sharp. 4. Isn't metric the first step to Sharia law? 6. Only liberal socialists (and the Chinese/Russians) use the metric system. 5. The French invented the metric nonsense 6. I don't understand metric Anybody else? Did I miss any other 'good' reasons? -- Dan Marotta Here you go, Dan. You're welcome. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History..._metric_system -- Dan Marotta |
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This is fun!
What was it caused NASA to miss the target on Mars? Did some programmer use metric when he should have used "the other system" or vice versa? (km vs miles or meters vs feet) On 2/19/2015 4:30 PM, wrote: On Thursday, February 19, 2015 at 2:34:40 PM UTC-6, Tony wrote: Two kinds of countries. Those who went to the moon Those who use Metric. 'murica Tony, Sorry to be pounding this topic (I'm actually off topic) but this made my day: http://www.quora.com/Why-does-the-US...feet-and-miles This makes sense. When shooting at the enemy (preferably from a safe distance) you want to make sure all parties to your 'coalition' use the same measurements. Maybe 'Murica is getting religion after all! -- Dan Marotta |
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On Friday, February 20, 2015 at 9:34:40 AM UTC+13, Tony wrote:
Two kinds of countries. Those who went to the moon Those who use Metric. 'murica In 1962, 'murica was able to get two men onto the moon and safely back in less than seven years after the decision. Today it would take how long after a similar decision? I doubt it would be less than twenty years, at least if we're talking about the US government and NASA. If we're talking about an engineer from South Africa, well -- he could probably do it in two years starting from now, and take a Tesla car along too. |
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On Thursday, February 19, 2015 at 7:41:05 PM UTC-5, Dan Marotta wrote:
This is fun! What was it caused NASA to miss the target on Mars?* Did some programmer use metric when he should have used "the other system" or vice versa?* (km vs miles or meters vs feet) On 2/19/2015 4:30 PM, wrote: On Thursday, February 19, 2015 at 2:34:40 PM UTC-6, Tony wrote: Two kinds of countries. Those who went to the moon Those who use Metric. 'murica Tony, Sorry to be pounding this topic (I'm actually off topic) but this made my day: http://www.quora.com/Why-does-the-US...feet-and-miles This makes sense. When shooting at the enemy (preferably from a safe distance) you want to make sure all parties to your 'coalition' use the same measurements. Maybe 'Murica is getting religion after all! -- Dan Marotta If it's what I'm thinking it is..... it's called, "Two different groups doing different programming". One group was in USofA measurements, the other was metric. The probe "thought" it was one height above ground when it was another height. Thus..... "splat"...... "Ya don't know until you run the WHOLE program........" |
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