Debacle: Flight test of Diana-2

Hi All,

Recently, I was invited by the Diana-2 dealer to be part of the
potential customer flight tests in Switzerland. It was a humiliating
fiasco. I've written about it on my blog www.neshe.com Please feel free
to browse.

In a few days, it will also contain a technical part with photographs
and a video.

Best regards,
Naresh

Sad. But let's hear the other side of the story...

Bartek

naresh wrote:
Hi All,

Recently, I was invited by the Diana-2 dealer to be part of the
potential customer flight tests in Switzerland. It was a humiliating
fiasco. I've written about it on my blog www.neshe.com Please feel free
to browse.

In a few days, it will also contain a technical part with photographs
and a video.

Perhaps you said or did something that you weren't aware of that really
****ed them off. Make a joke about the ugly color of the winch (the
color his wife picked out)? Say "Hi" to or chat with the guy at the
field he's been feuding with for 20 years? Have a glass of beer or wine
at lunch?

Shawn

Shawn wrote:

naresh wrote:

Hi All,

Recently, I was invited by the Diana-2 dealer to be part of the
potential customer flight tests in Switzerland. It was a humiliating
fiasco. I've written about it on my blog www.neshe.com Please feel
free to browse.

In a few days, it will also contain a technical part with photographs
and a video.


Perhaps you said or did something that you weren't aware of that really
****ed them off. Make a joke about the ugly color of the winch (the
color his wife picked out)? Say "Hi" to or chat with the guy at the
field he's been feuding with for 20 years? Have a glass of beer or wine
at lunch?

Shawn

Shawn,

Its quite unlikely, but possible. Never-the-less, if someone ****ed me
off, I'd try to "communicate" and reason out with the person. I've been
thinking, but nothing comes to mind. And, nope, I didn't have a drop of
alcohol.

Anyway, for those who are interested in a technical analysis of the
glider, I'll have it up during the weekend at the same site.

Naresh

Its quite unlikely, but possible. Never-the-less, if someone ****ed me
off, I'd try to "communicate" and reason out with the person. I've been
thinking, but nothing comes to mind. And, nope, I didn't have a drop of
alcohol.

Anyway, for those who are interested in a technical analysis of the
glider, I'll have it up during the weekend at the same site.

Naresh

- I'm afraid we can't get an unbiased technical analysis from you,
one you being ****ed of (in your own words), second they haven't let
you fly one. But thank you for bringing up details of "demo
flying".

At 17:00 12 October 2005, Naresh wrote:
Hi All,

Recently, I was invited by the Diana-2 dealer to be
part of the
potential customer flight tests in Switzerland. It
was a humiliating
fiasco. I've written about it on my blog www.neshe.com
Please feel free
to browse.

In a few days, it will also contain a technical part
with photographs
and a video.

Best regards,
Naresh


Mr. Beres has responded (in Polish) to questions on
the Polish gliding website regarding Mr. Naresh's complaint.

As I interpret his comments, he did not consider Mr.
Naresh to be sufficiently experienced on high performance
sailplanes to undertake a trial flight on the Diana
safely - particularly as Mr. Naresh was not familiar
with the site and in, apparently, not ideal meteorological
conditions.

A statement from the organiser of these trial flights
(in Germany and Switzerland) is promised today.
If it is in English, I will supply the website address.
If in Polish, I will summarise his comments.

Unless I am requested not to do so.

sta13.

GK wrote:
Its quite unlikely, but possible. Never-the-less, if someone ****ed me
off, I'd try to "communicate" and reason out with the person. I've been
thinking, but nothing comes to mind. And, nope, I didn't have a drop of
alcohol.

Anyway, for those who are interested in a technical analysis of the
glider, I'll have it up during the weekend at the same site.

Naresh


- I'm afraid we can't get an unbiased technical analysis from you,
one you being ****ed of (in your own words), second they haven't let
you fly one. But thank you for bringing up details of "demo
flying".


GK, I wonder what you mean by saying "(in your own words)". I'm writing
a part of the technical analysis, you are welcome to go through it or
ignore it. Whether my assessment is biased or not, depends on a lot of
factors. The so called "my bias" can only be estabilished once you read
it. Nobody's forcing you to look at anything, that wouldn't work would
it ;-) Please don't be a representative of the entire group.

Naresh,

Would you please share with us:
- What are your total glider hours flown as PIC ?
- Total hours flown in gliders with L/D40.
- Actual hours flown in gliders with L/D40 this year.

You mentioned only having 4 log books and 1250 flights.
Mark

Stanford Korwin wrote:

At 17:00 12 October 2005, Naresh wrote:

Hi All,

Recently, I was invited by the Diana-2 dealer to be
part of the
potential customer flight tests in Switzerland. It
was a humiliating
fiasco. I've written about it on my blog www.neshe.com
Please feel free
to browse.

In a few days, it will also contain a technical part
with photographs
and a video.

Best regards,
Naresh



Mr. Beres has responded (in Polish) to questions on
the Polish gliding website regarding Mr. Naresh's complaint.

As I interpret his comments, he did not consider Mr.
Naresh to be sufficiently experienced on high performance
sailplanes to undertake a trial flight on the Diana
safely - particularly as Mr. Naresh was not familiar
with the site and in, apparently, not ideal meteorological
conditions.

A statement from the organiser of these trial flights
(in Germany and Switzerland) is promised today.
If it is in English, I will supply the website address.
If in Polish, I will summarise his comments.

Unless I am requested not to do so.

sta13.




Sta13,

1. As far as the experience goes, it is not accurate, I have the emails
(all the collection of them), and I have significantly more experience
than what was requested.
2. They did not even wait for the check ride instructor to brief them.
3. The meteorological conditions? Wow, thats one hilarious one: it was
22deg cent. and zero wind. We were towing not winching (diana prototype
cannot be winched).

I have video's to corraborate this, and will put the video on the site
as well as photographs that show that Mr. Beres's statements are untrue.

I believe that they decided to not let me fly, period, no explaination.
They can say anything, if it was the experience, they knew mine, they
could've told me no-can't-do, or could've said that you need more hours
than I have and I'd never have wasted my time and money.

Thanks
Naresh

It is none of your business.
It is only between him and the group that put on the demo
by invitation only. He was invited.
Assessing some ones qualification is not done through
log books only. It is only a part. The problem it appears
lays with the organizers. They gave the pilot the run around.
The decision should have been made to let him fly or not
before he left his home. This group certainly should reimburse
his expenses. If only for public relations.
He has a right to be ****ed off about it.

Udo

Naresh,

Would you please share with us:
- What are your total glider hours flown as PIC ?
- Total hours flown in gliders with L/D40.
- Actual hours flown in gliders with L/D40 this year.

You mentioned only having 4 log books and 1250 flights.
Mark