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Is the 787 a failure ?



 
 
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Old January 30th 13, 09:20 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.crafts.metalworking,rec.aviation.military,talk.politics.misc,alt.society.labor-unions
Too_Many_Tools
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Default Is the 787 a failure ?

On Jan 29, 10:41*pm, (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote:
Yow!
*|
*| Boeing had numerous reliability issues with the main
*| batteries on its 787 Dreamliner long before the two battery
*| incidents this month grounded the entire fleet.
*|
*| More than 100 of the lithium ion batteries have failed and
*| had to be returned to the Japanese manufacturer, according
*| to a person inside the 787 program with direct knowledge.
*|
*| "We have had at least 100, possibly approaching 150, bad
*| batteries so far," the person said. "It's common."
*|
*| The frequency of battery failures reflects issues with the
*| design of the electrical system around the battery, said
*| the person on the 787 program.
*| ...
http://seattletimes.com/html/businesstechnology/2020241385_787deadbat...

* * --bks


Yeah..I saw that article.

This will NOT be any quick fix.

Anybody hear how much this has cost Boeing and the airlines so far?

It would be in the millions and counting.


TMT
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Old January 30th 13, 09:22 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.crafts.metalworking,rec.aviation.military,talk.politics.misc,alt.society.labor-unions
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Default Is the 787 a failure ?

Too_Many_Tools wrote:
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Anybody hear how much this has cost Boeing and the airlines so far?


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| According to industry expert John Hansman, the footprint of
| a traditional battery could be accommodated in the avionics
| bays or via split system, and weight would be manageable,
| noted Deutsche Bank. In a worst case scenario, it could
| take Boeing 3 to 6 months to develop a traditional battery
| solution for use in the 787. Meanwhile, the cost pf
| grounding the 787 is estimated at $300 million per month in
| airline penalties plus R&D and related costs.
| ...
http://www.streetinsider.com/Analyst+Comments/Boeing+%28BA%29+787+Traditional+Battery+Fix+Contem plated%2C+Grounding+Costs+%24300MMonth/8039591.html

--bks

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Old February 22nd 13, 02:15 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Vaughn
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Default Is the 787 a failure ?

On 1/10/2013 3:02 PM, Transition Zone wrote:
A Week Boeing Would Like To Forget
By Alex Zolbert, CNN, updated 2:01 PM EST, Thu January 10, 2013

More concerns for Dreamliner - (CNN) --


A bit of progress...

Japan's transport ministry said it had identified the likely cause of
fuel leaks on the Boeing 787 Dreamliner, but is still looking into why
batteries overheated on two occasions, causing the aircraft to be
grounded globally

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...013656490.html

Vaughn
 




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