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Old April 17th 04, 11:26 PM
Steven P. McNicoll
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"darwin smith" wrote in message
link.net...

You've just gone a long way toward's blowing whatever credibility you
might have
with this statement.


It wasn't a statement, it was a question, and one that apparently stumped
you.



Actually, there are several methods available that already are acting
to prevent abortions,
with Planned Parenthood being one of their leading proponents. The fall

under the general
category of "birth control procedures", and people generally learn about

them through
something called "sex education".


Those are not abortion procedures.



While I am firmly pro-choice,


You are firmly pro-murder, for that is what abortion is at present.



I am willing to admit that the
anti-abortion side (which is
not necessarily pro-life, so I won't call it such) does have a point.


Anti-abortion IS pro-life.


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Old April 17th 04, 11:49 PM
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"Philip Sondericker" wrote in message
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No, I think that redistributing my assets is financing the war.


What caused you to think that?


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Old April 18th 04, 12:05 AM
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in article . net, Steven P.
McNicoll at wrote on 4/17/04 3:49 PM:


"Philip Sondericker" wrote in message
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No, I think that redistributing my assets is financing the war.


What caused you to think that?


Whose money are we using--the Belgian's?

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Old April 18th 04, 12:10 AM
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I get better gas mileage in my '65 Cherokee Six than a Hummer gets on the
highway, 153 MPH at 14 GPH = 10.9 miles per gallon (statute miles). It is
also better mileage than my first car got, which was from nearly the same
time...a loaded '67 Ford LTD sedan that had a 390 cu in engine that drank 96
Octane minimum. I think LTD stood for Ford's Light Tank Division.

wrote:

On 16-Apr-2004, "Tony Cox" wrote:

I'd have expected those who chose Libertarian would be
a substantially higher proportion than the general population and the
Greens substantially lower. Pilots are a self-reliant independent bunch,
keen on driving machines whose gas consumption puts SUV's to
shame.


Taking into account that I can fly from point A to point B in a straight
line (rather than following a highway), my Arrow gets about the same fuel
efficiency (at 65% cruise) as a typical sedan. A Mooney would do even
better.

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Old April 18th 04, 01:23 AM
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"Philip Sondericker" wrote in message
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Whose money are we using--the Belgian's?


Did you not understand the question?


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Old April 18th 04, 01:24 AM
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"Ray Andraka" wrote in message
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I get better gas mileage in my '65 Cherokee Six than a Hummer
gets on the highway, 153 MPH at 14 GPH = 10.9 miles per
gallon (statute miles).


Gee, that's something to boast about, a vehicle that gets better gas mileage
than a Hummer.


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Old April 18th 04, 01:52 AM
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Steven P. McNicoll wrote:

"darwin smith" wrote in message
hlink.net...


You've just gone a long way toward's blowing whatever credibility you
might have
with this statement.




It wasn't a statement, it was a question, and one that apparently stumped
you.

It was a question asked in such a way as to imply that the "answer"
was completely
obvious - there is no fight against gay marraige. I therefore treated
the comment as
a statement being expressed in the form of a rhetorical question.

Now, I would guess that to you the answer to your "question" is
perfectly obvious -
there is no fight against gay marriage. If this is so, then could you
please explain to me
why the Republican efforts in Massachussetts to ban same-sex unions, and
"Bush the
Lesser's" proposed constitutional amendment are not "fights against gay
marriage"/

Actually, there are several methods available that already are acting
to prevent abortions,
with Planned Parenthood being one of their leading proponents. The fall


under the general


category of "birth control procedures", and people generally learn about


them through


something called "sex education".




Those are not abortion procedures.




While I am firmly pro-choice,




You are firmly pro-murder, for that is what abortion is at present.

I disagree, obviously, but as I say below I can understand your view.





I am willing to admit that the
anti-abortion side (which is
not necessarily pro-life, so I won't call it such) does have a point.




Anti-abortion IS pro-life.

Even when there is no exception to save the life of the mother?

By the way, I see that you didn't bother to address my comments about
birth control,
sex education, and generally being around when Suzy really needs the
help. Let me
know when you're ready and willing to discuss the _complete_ topic of
abortion,
and have moved beyond just casting judgement on those who happen to disagree
with you.

Rich Lemert

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Old April 18th 04, 02:04 AM
Steven P. McNicoll
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"darwin smith" wrote in message
hlink.net...

It was a question asked in such a way as to imply that the "answer"
was completely
obvious - there is no fight against gay marraige.


There isn't. Gays marry regularly and have done so for quite some time.



I therefore treated
the comment as
a statement being expressed in the form of a rhetorical question.

Now, I would guess that to you the answer to your "question" is
perfectly obvious -
there is no fight against gay marriage. If this is so, then could you
please explain to me
why the Republican efforts in Massachussetts to ban same-sex unions, and
"Bush the
Lesser's" proposed constitutional amendment are not "fights against gay
marriage"/


Gay marriage is not the same as same-sex marriage.



I disagree, obviously, but as I say below I can understand your view.


All abortion procedures performed today cause the deliberate death of the
child. That is murder by any reasonable definition.



Even when there is no exception to save the life of the mother?

By the way, I see that you didn't bother to address my comments about
birth control,
sex education, and generally being around when Suzy really needs the
help. Let me
know when you're ready and willing to discuss the _complete_ topic of
abortion,
and have moved beyond just casting judgement on those who happen to

disagree
with you.


Those things are not abortion procedures. We were discussing abortion
procedures.


 




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