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Most numerous sailplane type and model in the world?
On Feb 4, 8:17*pm, " wrote:
In my travels, I have heard many people comment that the LS-4 should have been world single design class. *From the above it appears that the Discus B - CS might be a good choice now. What do you think? Bill Snead I would still go with the LS4 only because more folks would fit in it than in the Discus. Roomier. WD |
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Most numerous sailplane type and model in the world?
In the two seaters it must be the ASK13 with 700+. After Schleicher ceased production, the sailplane has been license-built by Jubi GmbH of Oerlinghausen, Germany. ATC . |
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Most numerous sailplane type and model in the world?
On Fri, 04 Feb 2011 18:55:40 -0800, RRK wrote:
On Feb 3, 10:19Â*pm, Markus Graeber wrote: On Feb 3, 9:42Â*pm, " wrote: Does anyone know what active type, make and model of sailplane is the most numerous in the world and in the USA? Bill Snead Non-military the Grunau Baby is the most build, with maybe over 5000 build. The LET L-13 Blanik should be around 2700, the most build glass ship should be the LS 4 with some 1050 build, the most build glider still in production must be the Schempp-Hirth Discus with supposedly over 850 build to date. The Discus CS, identical to the Discus B, is still in production for SH in the Czech Republik. Markus Graeber SZD 48 Jantar St..........with 677 build Around 1000 ASW-20s were built, including B and C models. -- martin@ | Martin Gregorie gregorie. | Essex, UK org | |
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Most numerous sailplane type and model in the world?
On Feb 5, 7:20*am, Martin Gregorie
wrote: On Fri, 04 Feb 2011 18:55:40 -0800, RRK wrote: On Feb 3, 10:19*pm, Markus Graeber wrote: On Feb 3, 9:42*pm, " wrote: Does anyone know what active type, make and model of sailplane is the most numerous in the world and in the USA? Bill Snead Non-military the Grunau Baby is the most build, with maybe over 5000 build. The LET L-13 Blanik should be around 2700, the most build glass ship should be the LS 4 with some 1050 build, the most build glider still in production must be the Schempp-Hirth Discus with supposedly over 850 build to date. The Discus CS, identical to the Discus B, is still in production for SH in the Czech Republik. Markus Graeber SZD 48 Jantar St..........with 677 build Around 1000 ASW-20s were built, including B and C models. -- martin@ * | Martin Gregorie gregorie. | Essex, UK org * * * |- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Would it be possible that the owners of a numerous sailplane design could move ahead one design racing without involvement of current establishment (IGC, FAI, SSA, ect}. Could the owners form an assoication and sponsor competitons in interesting locations (central an western USA, Argentina, Australia, Slovakia) ? Bill Snead |
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Most numerous sailplane type and model in the world?
On Feb 5, 8:54*am, " wrote:
On Feb 5, 7:20*am, Martin Gregorie wrote: On Fri, 04 Feb 2011 18:55:40 -0800, RRK wrote: On Feb 3, 10:19*pm, Markus Graeber wrote: On Feb 3, 9:42*pm, " wrote: Does anyone know what active type, make and model of sailplane is the most numerous in the world and in the USA? Bill Snead Non-military the Grunau Baby is the most build, with maybe over 5000 build. The LET L-13 Blanik should be around 2700, the most build glass ship should be the LS 4 with some 1050 build, the most build glider still in production must be the Schempp-Hirth Discus with supposedly over 850 build to date. The Discus CS, identical to the Discus B, is still in production for SH in the Czech Republik. Markus Graeber SZD 48 Jantar St..........with 677 build Around 1000 ASW-20s were built, including B and C models. -- martin@ * | Martin Gregorie gregorie. | Essex, UK org * * * |- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Would it be possible that the owners of a numerous sailplane design could move ahead one design racing without *involvement of current establishment (IGC, FAI, SSA, ect}. *Could the owners form an assoication and sponsor competitons in interesting locations (central an western USA, Argentina, Australia, Slovakia) ? Bill Snead Bill: I've always thought this was a good idea to follow when discussing one design racing. Maybe one could even pit the various manufacturers against each other to be named the one design and in return they would sponsor a racing series (either nationally or internationally). Tim EY |
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Most numerous sailplane type and model in the world?
On Sat, 5 Feb 2011 06:54:56 -0800 (PST), "
wrote: Would it be possible that the owners of a numerous sailplane design could move ahead one design racing without involvement of current establishment (IGC, FAI, SSA, ect}. Could the owners form an assoication and sponsor competitons in interesting locations (central an western USA, Argentina, Australia, Slovakia) ? Sure - the French have an ASK-13 competition, and the Germans had Duo Discus competitions for at least 15 years... Andreas |
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I would certainly participate in one design racing if the Discus or
the LS-4 was the design. Jamie Shore |
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On Feb 5, 8:36*pm, Jamie Shore wrote:
I would certainly participate in one design racing if the Discus or the LS-4 was the design. Jamie Shore I would as well. WD |
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On Feb 5, 7:17*pm, Whiskey Delta wrote:
On Feb 5, 8:36*pm, Jamie Shore wrote: I would certainly participate in one design racing if the Discus or the LS-4 was the design. Jamie Shore I would as well. WD I think we tried to talk the IGC into using the LS-4 as the single glider for the World Class. You can see how well that worked out; there are nearly as many PW-5's around as LS-4's, Not! Logic is not something that happens at IGC meetings, the herd mentality somehow takes over and we now have seven classes. Next month I am sure they will want to add 14M and 17M classes for those that have been left out of the 13.5M and 20M classes. Yes, the LS-4 could have been the World Class and there would have been no need for the Club class. |
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Most numerous sailplane type and model in the world?
On 2/5/2011 6:41 PM, Tim Taylor wrote:
On Feb 5, 7:17 pm, Whiskey wrote: On Feb 5, 8:36 pm, Jamie wrote: I would certainly participate in one design racing if the Discus or the LS-4 was the design. Jamie Shore I would as well. WD I think we tried to talk the IGC into using the LS-4 as the single glider for the World Class. You can see how well that worked out; there are nearly as many PW-5's around as LS-4's, Not! Logic is not something that happens at IGC meetings, the herd mentality somehow takes over and we now have seven classes. Next month I am sure they will want to add 14M and 17M classes for those that have been left out of the 13.5M and 20M classes. Yes, the LS-4 could have been the World Class and there would have been no need for the Club class. Personally, I think a Club Class centered on the LS4 makes far more sense than a World Class based on the LS4. There were many more the gliders in the Club Class already existence than LS4's and they would be much cheaper than a new LS4. My fading recollection from being an SSA Director during the World Class development is no way did the manufacturer want to let go of the still very valuable LS4 design so that other companies could build it. I'm sure they would have been delighted to be the only manufacturer for the World Class, but the other companies would have been hugely upset. -- Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA (change ".netto" to ".us" to email me) |
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