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Old February 26th 11, 11:25 AM posted to alt.binaries.pictures.aviation
Glenn[_2_]
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These are CH-53 Sea Stallions ....
Right ?

Thanks in advance


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Old February 26th 11, 12:15 PM posted to alt.binaries.pictures.aviation
Robert[_4_]
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On Sat, 26 Feb 2011 22:25:59 +1100, "Glenn"
wrote:

These are CH-53 Sea Stallions ....
Right ?

Thanks in advance



Yes, one or another variant of the Sikorsky S-65 (Sea Stallion) or
S-80 (Super Stallion), aka CH-53.
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Old February 26th 11, 12:35 PM posted to alt.binaries.pictures.aviation
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"Robert" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 26 Feb 2011 22:25:59 +1100, "Glenn"
wrote:

These are CH-53 Sea Stallions ....
Right ?

Thanks in advance



Yes, one or another variant of the Sikorsky S-65 (Sea Stallion) or
S-80 (Super Stallion), aka CH-53.


Ta, it would be nice if they could just stick with a name hey :-)
Now I have to get used to not calling a Hornet a Hornet.
and now everything seems to be a Boeing. :-)

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Old February 26th 11, 01:27 PM posted to alt.binaries.pictures.aviation
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"Glenn" wrote in news:4d68e318$0$29982$c3e8da3
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These are CH-53 Sea Stallions ....
Right ?

Thanks in advance

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Yep

the two asset numbers I can read

HC017 BuNo 153286 AAHC0017 Sikorsky CH-53A Sea Stallion

HC0018 Buno 153706 AAHC0018 Sikorsky CH-53A Sea Stallion

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Old February 27th 11, 03:11 AM posted to alt.binaries.pictures.aviation
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John Szalay john.szalayATatt.net wrote in
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"Glenn" wrote in news:4d68e318$0$29982

$c3e8da3
:

These are CH-53 Sea Stallions ....
Right ?

Thanks in advance

Attachment decoded: IMG_9416 copy.jpg
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Yep

the two asset numbers I can read

HC017 BuNo 153286 AAHC0017 Sikorsky CH-53A Sea Stallion

HC0018 Buno 153706 AAHC0018 Sikorsky CH-53A Sea Stallion




Hi!

Just out of curiosity... What happens to these sad planes' and
helicopters' carcasses.

Several times have seem that plane cemitery somewhere in the desert...

They just left them there to be rusted and turned to dust? Althought
some metals used in them do not "rust"...

And what happens with all the avionics and engines?

Thanks in advance.

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Old February 27th 11, 01:13 PM posted to alt.binaries.pictures.aviation
John Szalay[_2_]
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Chunbala wrote in


Hi!

Just out of curiosity... What happens to these sad planes' and
helicopters' carcasses.


as long as the aircraft of the same type are still in service, they will
keep the in the yard and use them for parts, until they are out-dated,
then the remains are de-milled and sold as scrap to certified scrap metal
dealers. even then, the remains are tracked until they are reduced to bits
& pieces usally by griding machines.
there are some parts that can be purchased .
some aircraft such as the F-14 MUST now be completely handled by special
demill units to insure that nothing of value can be sold except as complete
SCRAP.

Non-combat aircraft can be sold to certified companies for reuse in some
cases.
..
some parts are available for resale, I had the name of a company that sold
them got a friend that was a B-52 gunner and he wanted a tail-gunners seat
from an early model B-52, for his rec-room. , he called them, but, no luck
so far.. he's still looking for one..

I've watched them feed several planes to the smelters. it is sad to see.



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Old February 27th 11, 05:20 PM posted to alt.binaries.pictures.aviation
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John Szalay john.szalayATatt.net wrote in
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Chunbala wrote in


Hi!

Just out of curiosity... What happens to these sad planes' and
helicopters' carcasses.


as long as the aircraft of the same type are still in service, they
will
keep the in the yard and use them for parts, until they are
out-dated, then the remains are de-milled and sold as scrap to
certified scrap metal dealers. even then, the remains are tracked
until they are reduced to bits & pieces usally by griding machines.
there are some parts that can be purchased .
some aircraft such as the F-14 MUST now be completely handled by
special demill units to insure that nothing of value can be sold
except as complete SCRAP.

Non-combat aircraft can be sold to certified companies for reuse in
some
cases.
.
some parts are available for resale, I had the name of a company that
sold them got a friend that was a B-52 gunner and he wanted a
tail-gunners seat from an early model B-52, for his rec-room. , he
called them, but, no luck so far.. he's still looking for one..

I've watched them feed several planes to the smelters. it is sad to
see.






Thanks for the info.

It's just an "eco" curiosity and concern.

In the past the planes are just iron and steel... so you could just
throw everything in one piece inside a furnace and don't have to worry
about it.

Today, you use some exotic metals and non-metals, to reduce weight,
increase resistance and reduce radar profile.

So... you can,t just throw it in one piece inside a furnace... if you
still want to use what will come out of it...

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Old February 27th 11, 07:00 PM posted to alt.binaries.pictures.aviation
Glenn[_2_]
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as long as the aircraft of the same type are still in service, they will
keep the in the yard and use them for parts, until they are out-dated,
then the remains are de-milled and sold as scrap to certified scrap metal
dealers. even then, the remains are tracked until they are reduced to bits
& pieces usally by griding machines.
there are some parts that can be purchased .
some aircraft such as the F-14 MUST now be completely handled by special
demill units to insure that nothing of value can be sold except as
complete
SCRAP.

Non-combat aircraft can be sold to certified companies for reuse in some
cases.
.
some parts are available for resale, I had the name of a company that sold
them got a friend that was a B-52 gunner and he wanted a tail-gunners seat
from an early model B-52, for his rec-room. , he called them, but, no luck
so far.. he's still looking for one..

I've watched them feed several planes to the smelters. it is sad to see.

I'm told that all the F-14 aircraft are now razor blades.
That from a very reliable source.

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Old February 27th 11, 08:06 PM posted to alt.binaries.pictures.aviation
John Szalay[_2_]
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Dr. Bill wrote in ne.

I read somewhere (yeah right...) about the A-7 being removed from
mothballs years ago, rebuilt, and shipped to our friends overseas.




Happens all the time, If you read the base newspaper , you can sometimes
get the serial, type and where its going.. or whats being worked on.

http://www.dm.af.mil/units/amarc.asp

http://www.dm.af.mil/shared/media/do...090317-063.pdf


and for parts as well !

http://www.dm.af.mil/shared/media/do...090408-059.pdf
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Old February 27th 11, 08:44 PM posted to alt.binaries.pictures.aviation
John Szalay[_2_]
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"Glenn" wrote in

I'm told that all the F-14 aircraft are now razor blades.
That from a very reliable source.




Its what I have heard as well,
except for the approx- 88 De-milled ones in museums
they don,t want the Iranians to get ANY parts for the Tom-Cat at all so
IIRC: even those have been stripped of any useable parts..

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/6...14s-deny-Iran-
any-parts.html
 




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