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Old June 22nd 05, 03:37 AM
Matt Barrow
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"Carl Orton" wrote in message
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I got my certificate there in 1981. Fun little airport - especially the hi
voltage lines of of rwy 9 in the NJ summer - 95 degrees, 95% humidity.

You
really had to manage your airspeed and flare!

Since I grew up in the area, I'll just say that George has it right on

about
the paranoia.


Actually, it was myself that was wondering about paranoia -- George
(rightfully, no doubt) thought otherwise. Evidently the FBI thinks so, too.
(Though that infor came later).


Matt
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Site-Fill Homes, LLC.
Montrose, CO


"George Patterson" wrote in message
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Matt Barrow wrote:



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Old June 22nd 05, 03:40 AM
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"George Patterson" wrote in message
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Bob Noel wrote:

The airport NIMBY goons aren't the most?


Not usually. Most of them don't have enough money.


George, if you ever come out west, I'll put you to work dealing with the
federal and local EPA's.


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Old June 22nd 05, 03:42 AM
Margy
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Matt Barrow wrote:
"Carl Orton" wrote in message
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I got my certificate there in 1981. Fun little airport - especially the hi
voltage lines of of rwy 9 in the NJ summer - 95 degrees, 95% humidity.


You

really had to manage your airspeed and flare!

Since I grew up in the area, I'll just say that George has it right on


about

the paranoia.



Actually, it was myself that was wondering about paranoia -- George
(rightfully, no doubt) thought otherwise. Evidently the FBI thinks so, too.
(Though that infor came later).


I grew up in NJ, my 9th grade lab partner's father owned a garbage
company, enough said.

Margy (when the Sopranos came out the teacher from NY and I thought,
hey! a real tv show)
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Old June 22nd 05, 03:46 AM
George Patterson
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Matt Barrow wrote:

George, if you ever come out west, I'll put you to work dealing with the
federal and local EPA's.


That wouldn't be profitable for either of us.

Actually, NJ is great for the developers. It's divided up into tons of small
towns, and all of them value their power. That makes the bribes pretty cheap
(usually). The article I read today quoted the former mayor as saying that
$1,500 was a "standard" payment for a typical zoning change. One of the airport
property bribes came to $20,000 and was split amoungst most of the zoning board.
That was to get the zoning increased from 51 units to 151 units on the same land.

I don't think the EPA would sell out for that, do you?

George Patterson
Why do men's hearts beat faster, knees get weak, throats become dry,
and they think irrationally when a woman wears leather clothing?
Because she smells like a new truck.
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Old June 22nd 05, 03:56 AM
Orval Fairbairn
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In article
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Bob Noel wrote:

In article ,
Orval Fairbairn wrote:

The way developers covet airports, it would not surprise me one bit.
Developers are the most politically influential group in state and local
government.


The airport NIMBY goons aren't the most?



Very often, you will find developers behind their campaigns.

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Old June 22nd 05, 05:58 AM
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Having spent some of formative years living in Long Branch, N.J., I know
exactly what you mean. SOP


George Patterson wrote:
And
anyone who thinks it's paranoia knows nothing about New Jersey.

George Patterson
Why do men's hearts beat faster, knees get weak, throats become dry,
and they think irrationally when a woman wears leather clothing?
Because she smells like a new truck.

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Old June 23rd 05, 01:57 AM
Bob Fry
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"GP" == George Patterson writes:

GP most of New
GP Jersey is corrupt.

The one experience I had with NJ was when I got a taxi from Newark to
Manhattan. In addition to the standard fare he wanted payment for
tolls enroute, which I paid, not knowing the custom. When I paid the
fare I rounded up so his tip came out to something like $2, which was
stiffing him but he was a surly SOB. He literally threw the bills
back at me and demanded I pay return fares too. That sounded bogus
and I refused. He then tried to grab a carry-on suitcase from my
wife, and when he couldn't steal that he grabbed my cell phone off my
belt and hopped back in the cab! He said I had 10 seconds to pay up,
when I still didn't he left. I had the yellow fare slip from the
Newark airport, so I called the Newark Taxi Commission office and
started the explain what had just happened. They interrupted me and
said "our drivers don't steal cell phones, you must have left it in
the cab." That was my introduction to Newark-style corruption.
 




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